Arum: "Accusations Against Chavez Jr R Poppycocky!"

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  1. Boxing Fanatic

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    His response to emannuel steward:

    "he took the **** test. plus, his weight gain after fights 18-20 pounds over, the rules say nothing about it"
     
  2. king khan

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    Eh, I give my brother Chavez Jr. the benefit of the doubt. . . If he says he took the **** test, he took the test. . .

    As far as his weight gain, no problem. . . That's just another aspect of boxing, and if you can master it, more power to you . . .


    Lee knew he was fighting on Chavez's terms, and he put up a decent showing of himself. . Chavez is just a ****ING TANK. . .


    The time is no longer where Chavez can be written off. . .

    Final message from me, hearns, and my brother Chavez: DEAL WITH IT

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  3. m8te

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    innocence until proven guilty as far as i'm concerned, but that being said, arum isn't the most credible person to speak on the subject, considering his history and the fact that he's junior's promoter.
     
  4. Cuauhtemoc1520

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    I'm not going to lie, I think the weight advantage is the main reason Jr is winning these fights. I'm not taking credit away from him in the way he performed because I have seen significant improvements but his size is just ridiculous compared to other fighters.
     
  5. Hatesrats

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    How tall is/was B-Hop??
    Or say Kelly Pavlik during their MW run??
    Those are some big boys right there why the focus now?
    (in general, I mean I know why, But I'd like to know "Why")

    Anyone have any #'s on those gents same day of weigh in stats.
    Just for **** 'n giggles
     
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    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    What the **** is "Poppycocky" BTW??
     
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    People complain about Jr when arguably Lee was bigger ...
     
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    The difference Jr not tall, more bulk.. can take a punch and hits hard.. and his style make him into a bully.
     
  9. m8te

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    an extremely confident fighter, covered in poppy seeds. think carl froch covered from head to toe, in poppy seeds.
     
  10. Badbot

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    Pavlik was 180 against Martinez but that was a first for him if i remember correctly.
    Hopkins used to be 168 or lower.
    Andy Lee is 6´2. Chambers, Adamek, Povetkin and Solis are the same. He is a middleweight with the height of a Cruiserweight.
     
  11. king khan

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    The only time I remember seeing Pavlik's rehydratoin weight was against Martinez, and he came in at 180. But at that point, he had been an alcoholic for years, and was struggling to make the weight. . He used to make 160 easy. . .

    Manfredo blew up to 179 against Chavez, or maybe it was 180, and Chavez was 179. . .

    Rubio was like 170. . . Lee was probably 170ish (based on his rehydration weight against Vera, which was 170).

    Chavez's weight is definitely an advantage he has going for him, but at the same time, it could end up being a crux. . That's why i think one more fight of crunching his frame to 160 is all he can handle. .

    THen he'll go to 168, where he'll still enjoy a size advantage over a lot of guys, but it won't be nearly as drastic. .

    But Chavez has a NASTY left hook to the body - it's in his DNA! And each fight he displays a better jab, and straight right.
     
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    they gon hit Sexy Sergio with a lawsuit like they did Floyd?
     
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    Correct. . . Pavlik just got sloppy, and wasn't making 160 like he used to. . He is also 6'2''.

    Lee, despite being 6'2'', has a very lanky, and wiry frame. . He rehydrated to 170 against Vera (but he weighed in at 163 per the contracted weight). . . His height, and long frame played into Chavez's game even more - that tattoo he has on his ribcage/stomach was just a bullseye for Chavez. . . Lee has such a large area to target to the body
     
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    SIR LEON! My good man!

    Well, that all depends. . . If QUEERGIO pops off constantly, saying "he KNOWS" that Jr. is using steroids, and Jr.'s reputation with the boxing public takes a hit because of it, then yes, he will have to pay for his slanderous remarks. . . BUt if he simply gives an opinion like "I don't know if CHavez has used steroids, or illegal substances. . " and "I want to make sure he's clean by enhacned drug testing. . " Then no, he will not be sued.

    Greetings from me, and my identical brother, Chavez Jr., and Hearns!

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    he took the prefight urine sample i heard....