Joe Bugner Tribute Thread: All Time Great Contender

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  1. Senor Pepe'

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    Boone 'Boom Boom' Kirkman was the 'Great White Champion' in the 1966 thru 1974 era.

    Posted a record of 32-2-0 (23 KO's).

    Boone won the 'Great White Heavyweight Championship' by defeating the 'super dangerous'
    Lars Olof Norling, a fighter nobody wanted to tangle with.

    Only losses, a TKO 8 to Doug Jones, a result of a cut-eye, in a bout that 'Boom Boom' was
    winning, and well ahead on the cards at the time of the stoppage.

    And 'the dive' loss, versus George Foreman.

    And he did beat Jimmy Ellis (in December 1973) before Joe Bugner defeated Jimmy Ellis (in November 1974).

    I think Joe Bugner said, 'Boone took everthing out of Jimmy, so it made it easier for me.'
     
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  2. Stevie G

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    Joe would definitely have beaten Boone.
     
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  3. The Mongoose

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    Who changed the "race baiting" thread title?

    If anything we should be debating the lineage of the WHITE Heavyweight title during this time.

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  4. Senor Pepe'

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    Gooseman,

    How dare you disrespect that 'White Heavyweight' list, without mentioning, quite possibly
    'The Greatest Tall White Heavyweight of All-Time'

    6' 9" - James J. Beattie

    'Big Jim' Beattie
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  5. The Mongoose

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    A great no doubt, I mean he was tall. You can't teach tall. He was never LINEAL though...
     
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  6. Senor Pepe'

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    Very Swedish - Very White

    'The Stockholm Slammer'

    Lars Olof Norling

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  7. frankenfrank

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    Taking your word that his boxrec record is partial , he still has enough humiliating losses , correct me if i'm wrong , on his boxrec record , and maybe has some more ? and not any worthy win that i found , and Xept from being white indeed , i believe that he was a lesser fighter than Ingemar Johansson . Or in other words , d 2nd best Swedish fighter of all times at most , and i believe that not even that . How he gets a mention under any topic other than Swedish heavyweights , IDK .
     
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  8. Senor Pepe'

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    Lars Olof Norling,

    A Swedish Super Talent

    1959 Sweden National Amateur Champion (Light-Heavyweight)
    1960 Olympic Representative

    At 6' 3", was a tall Light-Heavyweight, but his best weight was 185 lbs.

    Had to fight as a Heavyweight when he turned professional in 1961.

    Got to 11-1-1, then in February 1962 was improperly matched with
    225 lb. Italian Heavyweight, Giorgio Masteghin.

    Got beat by a Decision, as he was out-muscled by the 30+ lbs. heavier Giorgio.

    Fired his manager immediately after the bout.

    Then, went on to the long road of being over-matched.

    May have been the best Scandanavian 185 lbs. fighter in the early-1960's.
     
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  9. Stevie G

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    How about Ingo v Bugner,prime for prime ?
     
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    Mongoose Is A G :rasta
     
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  11. Stevie G

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    Agreed,but Joe would give them both a decent fight if he's in the right frame of mind.
     
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  12. kenmore

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    Bugner said absoutely nothing of the sort, Pepe. I have researched Bugner's career, and I'm well aware of the statements he made to the press. You, by contrast, are either making things up, or you are imagining things.

    If you think that Kirkman's loss to Foreman was a dive, you are sadly mistaken. I'll bet you aren't aware that Kirkman was having a mini nervous breakdown in his dressing room before the fight, and that he wouldn't enter the ring for quite some time. You didn't know that, did you?

    Nobody in boxing took Kirkman too seriously. He was an advanced clubfighter, nothing more. In no way was Kirkman a threat to Bugner, Quarry, Bonavena, or Chuvalo during the early '70s.
     
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  13. kenmore

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    Bugner by decision. It would be a bad fight, because Joe would play it safe, and take no chances exposing himself to Ingo's right. But Bugner's left jab would be the punch of the night.

    I can't see the smallish Ingo penetrating Bugner's guard. At close quarters, Bugner would use his 30 lbs weight advantage to tie Ingo up. Joe's advantages in height, reach, and open ring boxing ability make the difference here.
     
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  14. red cobra

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    Wha..no lovva for a-Bepi Ros???
     
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  15. Senor Pepe'

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    Let me see,

    Boone Kirkman, 'a club-fighter' beats Jimmy Ellis in 1973.

    Then Joe Bugner beats a 'dangerous Heavyweight' and World-rated #10 Jimmy Ellis in 1974.

    When ever Boone 'Boom Boom' Kirkman fought at the Seattle Center Coliseum,
    the place would be packed with 12,000+ boxing fans.

    And by mid-1970, he was the #7 Ring Magazine ranked Heavyweight.

    No, Boone Kirkman was no club-fighter.
     
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