Carlos Monzon (Ripped by Sports Illustrated)

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  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    When you get off your PMS try finding a different forum to make your whiney, childish posts. Try a tennis forum, after all there can't be as many mean bogey-men with criminal records as in boxing. you make no sense at all *******..you should follow women's sports, because you sure think like one.
     
  2. Hands of Iron

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    Interesting stuff.

    What's "Fe"? :huh
     
  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fe stands for "iron", if I remember correctly. That periodic table stuff.
     
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    :d
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Clever, that Sr. Pepe', no?
     
  6. Hands of Iron

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    :lol:

    Yeah, although he basically put it right there in the parenthesis. :patsch
     
  7. red cobra

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    :lol:
     
  8. Senor Pepe'

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    Correct, Mr. Red Cobra

    Iron = Fe (Chemical Element)

    Atomic Element #26

    Hands of Iron
    Hands of Fe
    Hands of Element #26
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    On the Carlos Monzon vs. 33 1/2 year-old, 5' 7 1/2", 155 lb. Emile Griffith.

    Though Carlos won by (TKO 14), he was not overly impressive. He was 'jeered' by his
    own 23,000 fans at Luna Park a few times.

    A very dull performance, fought with no intent on hurting the smaller fighter.
    Just a methodical wear-down, with no risk taking.

    After 5-Rounds, it was 2-2-1 on Jim McKay's Scorecard (ABC Televsion Broadcast)

    Carlos Monzon looked like a 175 lb. Light-Heavyweight, compared to the 155 lb. smaller
    Emile Griffith.

    Through 10-Rounds, it was still relatively close, as Emile Griffith was suprisingly, the aggressor, and
    Carlos Monzon the boxer-mover.

    In Rounds 11, 12 and 13, though Monzon was the stronger fighter in the ring, he was having a hard time
    landing his slow and heavy punches on the 'elusive' 33 1/2 year-old former Multi-Champion.
    And Monzon's, once accurate left-hand jab, was now minimally effective. For Emile, he
    was still winging left hooks from long-range, and on occassion, a zipping right-hand.

    In Round 14, the 'two' combatants were fighting on 'even terms' through the first '2-minutes,
    when

    Then with a stunned Griffith in front of him and pinned in the corner, Carlos unloads an 8-punch
    flurry, as the hurt Griffith bends over, defensless, Mexican Referee Ramon Berumen stops the
    bout at 2:32 of Round 14.

    The '3' Judges, all from Argentina, had Carlos Monzon ahead at the time of the stoppage.

    * 127-124 (6-3-4 in Rounds)
    * 125-122 (7-4-1 in Rounds)
    * 127-125 (5-3-5 in Rounds)
     
  9. red cobra

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    I knew that college science class would come in handy one day!!:happy
     
  10. Senor Pepe'

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    Before the bout, ABC-TV 'fight announcer' Jim McKay stated the 29 year-old
    Carlos Monzon was in his 'prime at 29', and the mystery man from Santa Fe, Argentina
    was about to show all, just how great he was.

    On the other hand, on the under-sized 33 1/2 year-old Emile Griffith, it was suggested that
    he would have a hard time escaping the 'heavy right-hands' of the powerful Argentinian,
    and that it would be a surprise if he could make it through 7-Rounds.

    The fight was 'All Even' after 10-Rounds,

    As the 33 1/2 year-old Emile Griffith was, suprisingly, the effective aggressor.

    Carlos Monzon, with his superior strength and size, took slight edges in
    Rounds 11, 12 and 13, to pull ahead, as he would wear the smaller Emile Griffith
    down at the end of each Round.

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    Carlos Monzon vs. Fraser Scott

    Saturday - December 4, 1971

    Luna Park, Buenos Aires, Argentina

    10-Round 'Non-Title' Fight.
    ABC-TV Broadcast

    Fraser Scott, a 24 year-old, Seattle, Washington 'club-fighting Middleweight'.

    A 5' 9" boxer-slugger, with a 22-6-1 (10 KO's) record.

    Got a 'gift' in October 1969, when at 17-0-1 and Ranked #5, he was picked as a 'safe opponent' to challenge Nino Benvenuti
    in Italy, for the World Middleweight Championship. Fought well, before losing by disqualification for 'head-butting' ( L Disq. 7).

    Fraser, failed to capitalize on the opportunity, and was 'over-matched' in several bouts in 1970 and 1971,
    while going 5-5-0 in '10-bouts', falling to 22-6-1.

    Fraser Scott, the Pacific Northwest Middleweight Champions was expected to give Monzon a competitive
    fight for 5 or 6 Rounds, before the 'Shotgun' exploded.

    ROUND 1
    Carlos Monzon, starts to measure Frazer Scott immediately, and lands several hard punches early.
    The Seattle Middleweight, realizing he is over-matched, goes into survival mode. Several
    thudding punches have Scott 'stunned', and on unsteady pins.

    ROUND 2
    Pretty much a repeat of Round 1, as Monzon stalks the evading Fraser Scott. Monzon lands a right lead,
    then a whipping left hook that drops Fraser Scott hard. The Seattle Middleweight rises, but is hurt and
    on the defensive. Monzon gives pursuit, and corners Scott, where he unloads several hard punches,
    on the upper-body and head. Scott wobbles and tries to grab Monzon, who then drops a hard right
    and left to the top of Scott's head as he falls to his knee's. Scott rises, and 'in a daze' manages to make
    it through to the end of the round, where upon he staggers back to his corner.

    ROUND 3
    Amidst some confusion in Fraser Scott's corner, on whether they want to send him out for Round 3. The Referee
    Alfonso Araujo takes a look at the 'still in a daze' fighter, and as the Bell rings to start the round, calls a
    halt to the bout at 0:01 of the 3rd Round, as Fraser Scott is unable to continue.

    Carlos Monzon's Fight Purse; $40,000 (U.S. Dollars)
    Fraser Scott's Fight Purse; $15,000 (U.S. Dollars)

    Tito Lecture, Carlos Monzon's Promoter, has announced possible early-1972 opponents,
    'two' former World Middleweight Champions, either Denny Moyer, or Freddie Little.
     
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    Carlos Monzon 1967 (Fight Purse's in U.S. Dollars)

    Saturday - May 6, 1967...vs....#19 Bennie Briscoe 19-4-0 (12 KO's) at Luna Park, Buenos Aires.

    Carlos Monzon $5000 / Bennie Briscoe $7500

    24 year-old Philadelphia Middleweight Prospect, (#19-Ranked) Bennie Briscoe is brought to
    Luna Park, in Buenos Aires, Argentina, to test the 'upstart' 24 1/2 year-old,
    Argentinian Middleweight Champion, who was (#17 Ranked) at 40-3-6 (28 KO's).

    In a non-excting bout, where both Middleweights 'neutralize' each other, the bout is
    ruled a 10-Round Draw, though some think that Bennie Briscoe was slightly more
    effective, with is aggressive and always moving forward style.

    There were a few who wanted to bring Carlos Monzon to the United States, for a
    couple of bouts, and were using this bout versus Bennie Briscoe as an evaluation.
    After his performance, it was determined that his 'dull-style' of punch, lean back and hold,
    would not be received too well in the States.
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    Saturday - June 16, 1976...vs...#18 Jorge Fernandez 111-7-2 (81 KO's) at Luna Park, Buenos Aires.

    Argentinian Middleweight Championship

    Carlos Monzon $7500 / Jorge Fernandez $7000

    Carlos Monzon takes on 30 year-old veteran (#18 Ranked) Jorge 'Gallego' Fernandez again. Feranadez is the former
    Argentinian Middleweight Champion, and a very popular fighter. The short 5' 5 1/2" 'bulldog' is a hard inside puncher,
    and gave Monzon one hell of a fight, 1-year earlier. From the outset, the bigger Monzon controls the bout with solid jabs,
    and counter-punch left uppercuts.

    Jorge Fernandez has a hard time getting inside, and Monzon uses clubbing punches to keep Fernandez at bay,
    en-route to a solid 12-Round Decision win.
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  13. red cobra

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    Yes, it may have seemed "dull", but hardly needs to be pointed out that it was supremely effective. He never got the **** knocked out of him like so many other "exciting" and flashy fighters. He and guys like Gavilan were in a league to themselves, in that they both had many fights and were never stopped.
     
  14. Senor Pepe'

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    Red C,

    I agree, Carlos, very smart fighter, and never took any unneccessary punches.

    He proved he could take a punch, and still keep coming, many times.

    His 'granite chin' and 'rock hard body', very under-rated attributes.

    As a note, they had to give Bennie Briscoe more money than Carlos, to come to Bueno Aires in 1967.
     
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    R/T

    Saturday - July 29, 1967

    Luna Park, Buenos Aires

    (#12 M) Carlos Monzon 41-3-7 (28 KO's) vs. (#13 M) Antonio Aguilar 43-1-4 (11 KO's)

    Fight Purse (U.S. Dollars)...... Carlos Monzon $6500 / Antonio Aguilar $6500

    Antonio Aguilar, a 27 year-old Middleweight, a 6' 0" boxer/counter-puncher,
    the #2 Argentinian Middleweight, and #13 World-Rated.

    Antonio Aguilar was no stranger to Carlos Monzon, as he had defeated (W Dec 10)
    a 21 year-old Monzon way back in August 1963. Carlos did get some revenge, by defeating Antonio
    (W Majority-Dec 10) in December 1965, handing Antonio his 'only loss' in '48-bouts'.

    Antonio Aguilar had been chasing Carlos Monzon for a year and a half, and claimed that Monzon was
    afraid to fight him again, as the December 1965 bout was 'highly debated'.

    Antonio Aguilar, at 6' 0" could match Monzon in height and reach. Though Monzon had more
    'punching-power', Aguilar was just as strong physically, and was quicker in punching speed.

    In both bouts with Carlos, Aguilar's counter-punching skills neutralized Monzon's power.
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    The Bout;

    In a 'Argentinian Middleweight War', Antonio Aguilar abandoned his 'counter-punching style', and turned
    aggressive, pressuring Carlos Monzon from the opening bell.

    After 4-Rounds, Agiular had a lead on the Scorecards, as Monzon was having difficultly in getting punching room.

    In Round 5, Monzon was finally able to get some punching room, and nailed Aguilar coming in with several hard shots,
    but Aguilar still pressed forward, and was still the aggressor.

    In Rounds 6 and 7, Aguilar went back to his old style of 'counter-punching', as he had a slight lead, and tried to
    bait Monzon into making a mistake when leading. Carlos chased and scored with jabs, but could land with anything
    heavy on the elusive Aguilar.

    After 7 Rounds, Antonio Aguilar had a 'slight-lead' on the Scorecards. {3-2-2 / 4-3-0 / 3-2-2 in Rounds}

    In Round 8, Monzon started to press, and began to land hard shots (left upper-cuts) on Aguilar, who
    was now on the defensive. Mid-way through the round, Monzon shook Aguilar with another hard left upper-cut,
    who went down to one-knee, to take a 'Mandatory 8-Count'. Aguilar, upon rising, then moved quickly thoroughout
    the rest of Round 8 to survive.

    Round 9 - Monzon stalked the hurt Aguilar, who could not keep Monzon off him. Several times throughout the Round,
    Monzon would trap Antonio, and pummel him with left upper-cut and right-hand combinations. Near the 2:00 mark,
    Monzon nailed Aguilar with a hard right, then with his opponent dazed, Monzon dropped Aguilar with a wicked
    left upper-cut right on the button. Antonio Aguilar fell on all-fours, as Referee Alfonso Arajuo counted him out.