Trout binned as Canelo's opponent over drug test demands

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by HMSTempleGarden, Jun 26, 2012.


  1. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Trout wants to go with VADA.

    GBP have said no.

    Reason: political nonsense and GBP have a grip with VADA and are trying to cut a deal with USADA
     
  2. Jdsm

    Jdsm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    **** sake, the promoters are only going to want to attach themselves to one organisation so they can get al pally and allow the corruption to resume whilst making it look like they're making an effort to stop PED use.
     
  3. Earl-hickey

    Earl-hickey Boxing Junkie banned

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    I honestly think Trout would deal to Alvarez
     
  4. Llanlad

    Llanlad Active Member Full Member

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    It should not be up to promoters which organization does drug testing.

    Promoters should just promote their fighters and their scheduled fights ...they should have no control over anything else .

    A drug testing company should have way more powers than a promoter and should be allowed to do their job and come down hard on any promoter / fighter that tries to challenge their powers.
     
  5. jonnytightlips

    jonnytightlips Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This drug **** is really ****in pissing me off.
     
  6. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Well, seems like GBP are well and truly put off VADA now after the Peterson debacle.

    As someone said, promoters only give a **** about cleaning up the sport as long as it's not affecting their income. They're always going to go work with a partner (in this case an anti-doping body) who offers them the most protection for their money.

    For the Peterson - Khan fight, GBP had tried to have terms which said that they will be notified as soon as a fighter's A-sample tests positive. VADA said that this is against the code of ethics, and if this was to happen they would need signed consent from both fighters for their samples to be shared. GBP never provided this consent and so Peterson was able to sit on his positive test until it was too late to find a replacement opponent for Khan, meaning they lost the date, the venue and a great deal of money.

    This leads me to believe that they have a more 'comfortable' arrangement with USADA. I mean it must be, why else would they pay the additional $80k they charge for testing compared to VADA?
     
  7. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    its GBP's own fault though mate. If they had signed the paperwork which would have allowed VADA to notify them in an event of a failed drugs test then things may well be different.
     
  8. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    I know, I completely agree. I believe that if they had it their own way they'd protect their fighters by keeping positive tests quiet.
     
  9. Robney

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    It shows they rather have lesser testing as having another fight cancelled just before it was supposed to happen.

    I can't really blame 'm. Year round testing for every top level fighter is key.
     
  10. Jared

    Jared Active Member Full Member

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    It doesn't matter which organisation they opt for, so long as the correct procedures are followed and the best tests are used.
    I'd trust USADA more, they're used for most of the major sports, as well as for olympic testing, whereas VADA are for boxing/MMA only. I'm not saying VADA are corrupt but they're a lot less experienced and derive more money from boxing.
     
  11. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Well, there's certain pieces of evidence out there which show that USADA might bow to outside pressure and provide 'friendly' treatment to clients.

    There's also the shady behaviour over the Quillin - Wright fight, which doesn't show them in a good light. And then there's the issuing of cease and desist letters to journalists investigating specific clauses in Gbp's contracts with them.

    I mean, everything is probably fine and able board, but if they're actually intent on cleaning up the sport properly then the process should be transparent and the terms of the contracts should be made available.
     
  12. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    its beyond a joke now, my love for boxing since i became a dedicated fan 18 years ago is at an alltime low
     
  13. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm more inclined to trust VADA than USADA especially after the Kid Chocolate-Wright scandal.

    Then there is the point that USADA do NOT use CIR testing on all their samples whilst VADA does.
     
  14. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm very suspicious of fighters who refuse to submit to VADA drug testing.