If Marciano went 49-0 in Ali's Era

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  1. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    Say he did in a time period similar to Frazier. Started in around 66, retired as undefeated champ (in place of Ali, so there would be no Ali fight, but he would have fought up to around 73, allowing for a Foreman fight).

    Would you rank him as the GOAT?
     
  2. Ali_

    Ali_ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't always put forth hypothetical questions
    But when I do
    I like them to be with Marciano beating Ali's competition!
     
  3. El-Mafioso

    El-Mafioso Member Full Member

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    his biggest opponent would be Sonny Liston and George Foreman
     
  4. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    I don't think Rocky could realistically beat a Peak Foreman.
     
  5. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    He'd be fighting a well past prime Sonny Liston. Starting in 66. So he'd potentially have the likes of Zora Folley, Cleveland Williams, Floyd Patterson, Henry Cooper, Ernie Terrell, Karl Mildenberg, Jerry Quarry, Oscar Bonavena, Jimmy Ellis, Buster Mathis, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton and George Foreman.

    With some filler on his way up of course. That kind of list of names.
     
  6. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Obviously.
     
  7. Hands of Iron

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    Ali didn't go undefeated in Ali's era and he's still widely viewed as the GOAT.
     
  8. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    I'll wait for a few more replies, then I'll go into detail about my point/agenda.
     
  9. Manassa

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    I think if Marciano went 49-0 in six fights between Liston, Frazier and Foreman at his size and with that style, plus the rest, I'd have to rate him above Harry Greb.
     
  10. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Yes. At HW.....Actually he would be top 5 p4p clearly to me I think.....
     
  11. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    He would be lucky to be a 50/50 fighter in Ali's era.
     
  12. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl

    Jack Dempsey would never see the crown again had he fought after 1937 :good
     
  13. Sister Sledge

    Sister Sledge Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The quest is moot because he wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of going 49-0 then. The heavyweights were bigger and better in Ali's era.
     
  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Some were bigger but better? Was cooper better than rex layne? Was mildenburger better than kid mathews? Doug jones better than lastarza? Take the big guys, outside of (old) Liston you only have Williams and Terell . Who are Williams and terell in A.T.G terms? The Liston Ali fought was the only 50-50 fight out there for Marciano.

    Rocky was only ever going to last 4 years at the top in any era. If he starts in the cassius clay years then that conveniently takes Rocky out of circulation by the 1970s. Even so, those 1970s contenders are flattered by an older Ali and Frazier.
     
  15. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both would beat Rocky,imo.