Trout binned as Canelo's opponent over drug test demands

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by HMSTempleGarden, Jun 26, 2012.


  1. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    To be fair USADA came out and refuting the claim that they don't do CIR testing. They've said they do.

    My biggest problem with VADA is its ties to Victor Conte. As much as I think he's an invaluable resource for antidoping, I just wouldn't put anything past the guy. he's constantly criticising USADA and praising his friend's organisation VADA.
     
  2. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    Conte has very suspect facial hair. I don't trust him.
     
  3. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what they stated publicly was:

    the end part tells me all I need to know.
     
  4. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    I hadn't seen that. There we go then.

    Cheers pal.
     
  5. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We can also see by that public statement why the Pacquiao-Mayweather drug testing demands were an issue.

    First off Floyd championed USADA.

    The problem is USADA have no jurisdiction outwith the States and therefore would have been unable to test Pacquiao as he always tends to open camp in the Philippines hence Pacquiao asking for an independent body to do the testing.

    This is when all the **** hit the fan and we had the Floyd and Pac fans make claim after counter claim.

    Then Clan Mayweather pipped up that Pacquiao HAD to train in the States. Nothing like dictating terms, Pacquiao quite rightly told to him go **** himself.
     
  6. It seems that people can't agree on the colour of shite these days.

    Didn't Arum want to use WADA rather than USADA, on the basis that the US body might be predisposed to ''favour'' Floyd (whatever that means) and that WADA would be neutral?

    It's worse than the Haye/Klitschko farce over the nationality of the doctors in the corner :-(

    In most walks of life credibility is of paramount importance... in boxing it's as if nobody gives a flying **** :-(
     
  7. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WADA are an entirely body altogether from USADA and VADA mate.
     
  8. mgmark7

    mgmark7 Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed. As long as money is being made not much else matters.
     
  9. The Spider

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    Yet another excuse that will be toted out for good fights never eventuating.
     
  10. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    its a deal breaker in the Chavez-Martinez fight.
     
  11. Yeah I know, that's why I mentioned that Arum wanted (or said he wanted) to use WADA rather than USADA for the Pac/Floyd fight.
     
  12. macho_grande

    macho_grande "I'll never get over" Full Member

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    This is the problem when you don’t have one body governing the sport.

    Imagine the Jamican sprint team refusing to undergo USDSA testing in favour of another body. (Or refusing entirely?) ridiculous.
     
  13. Jared

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    You're got a point regarding the carbon isotope testing. But anti-drug testing is continuously evolving and since the Peterson debacle I'm sure the USADA will start using the carbon isotope test as standard.

    Not sure exactly what happened with the Quilin fight. All the information seems to be coming from the fighters, who aren't the most reliable source. From what I understand the USADA agreed to conduct testing, then backed out because there wasn't enough time to inform the fighters on what they could take and what not?
     
  14. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This part is true but Wright insisted on the samples that had already been taken to be tested, USADA informed him that the samples had already been destroyed.
     
  15. Jared

    Jared Active Member Full Member

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    Why would Jamaicans be tested by an American body? They'd be tested by the Jamaican equivalent that's affiliated to WADA if they were competing in Jamaica.

    There is one major anti-doping body in America - USADA, they're the only one accredited by the WADA and are used by 99% of sports in America from archery to water polo.

    But there's nothing stopping you me or any Yank creating a company that purports to conduct tests in the same way, or in any manner they wish.
    If that's the case he's got no right to insist on something like that. He should have given a second sample.