TYSON FURY vs Sherman Tank Williams

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  1. Fists o Foreman

    Fists o Foreman Member Full Member

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    Nope.......they are both in the same league.........i.e neither are that good.......but are just good enough to beat journeymen or lower level fighters.
     
  2. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    Neither is that good, but Charr is worse, clearly.

    Needed a favourable hometown decision to scrape by Zack Page, who Fury easily dominated, as any decent fighter who fights Page does.

    Fury mopped the floor with Nasciemento in much more routine fashion than Charr too.

    And that's just with a gander at their records, ability wise, Fury is clearly better than Charr as can be told by watching them.
     
  3. Fists o Foreman

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    They both have different physical make ups so you wouldn't expect them to fight in similar fashion.........Fury was the bigger man than Nasciemento.......Charr was smaller than Nasciemento.
    Let's not forget Fury gets quite a few wins because of his size advantage rather than pure boxing skills.

    If you put Fury in with Charr I would say Charr is better than anyone Fury has faced who could really test that chin.
    Fury could also test Charrs.........but Fury is not "Clearly" better than Charr........ I don't recall Charr being rocked quite as badly as Fury has by C level fighters.;)
     
  4. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    That's a fair argument. For me though, Fury just has the greater physical capabilities, and if being massive is one of them, then it's only another advantage to him. Charr has an awful workrate and with that you have to question his stamina, I think he's the lesser fighter because all though he is less crude than Fury, he doesn't seem to be able to get his work going in the same way as Fury does. I think Charr has fought lesser competition than Fury (Chisora aint a bad name at all :yep) and I don't believe he has looked as good as Tys in those fights, personally.
     
  5. wallworkjake123

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    1) Fury wasn't 100% when he fought Pajkic and Firtha - Just look at his conditioning.

    2) Charr hasn't even fought anyone as good or better than Firtha or Pajkic.

    Fury dominates and stops Charr. Fury out-boxed Chisora so don't use the 'he only won because he's tall' argument.
     
  6. Fists o Foreman

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    And Chisora was 100% when he fought Fury!:?

    I still think it a 50/50 fight........Charr is a better boxer than Pajkic and Firtha........and if they can breach Fury's defences good.......then I'm pretty sure Charr would..........that said Fury has the weighter punch & physical advantage.

    Neither is good enough to predict with ANY accuracy who would come out on top.
     
  7. wallworkjake123

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    I'm repeating myself, but you keep making the same points.

    Fury (defense and conditioning) wasn't 100% against Firtha and Pajkic. Charr got a gift against Zack Page so I don't see how he is better than Firtha and Pajkic.
     
  8. Fists o Foreman

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    And I am repeating myself here............was Chisora 100%?

    Chisora was well out of shape and still rocked Fury.......something he couldn't achieve against Helenius or Vitali.........and Chisora was in shape when he faced those 2 guys!

    As for Zack Page...........It was one fight...........Charr wasn't 100% when he met Zack!;)

    .......and let's not forget Fury looked terrible in his fights with big fat Mcdermot......even when he stopped him.......and how quickly did Price get rid of the same Mcdermot?
     
  9. SportsLeader

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    A Chisora at 30% is still better than Page and Nasciemento, he'd easily beat both.
     
  10. wallworkjake123

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    Chisora wasn't 100% but he was heavier therefore his punchers had more impact on them.

    Out of shape Chisora beats Charr. And the Mcdermott fights were ages ago mate.

    And didn't Charr struggle BADLY against Williams and Nacsimento when Charr WAS AT HIS BEST?!
     
  11. Fists o Foreman

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    Charr didn't struggle against either Williams or Nacsimento.......he just took his time.

    Let's put it this way.............Charr hasn't looked as bad as Fury has in some of his fights.......as for the Mcdermott fights..........don't make excuses for Fury.......he barely beat the fat guy..........and yet Price takes him out 20 rounds quicker than Fury!;)
     
  12. joegrundy

    joegrundy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Chisora would obviously KO the Brazilian and would beat page pretty easily.

    Chisora would also beat Charr. Bad troll you laa.
     
  13. Fists o Foreman

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    ?:?

    I am not comparing Chisora against Charr or the Brazilian.

    I merely saying Fury isn't that great.....and nor is Charr.
     
  14. wallworkjake123

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    I never said Fury was great. I'm just saying he completely out-boxes and stops Charr.
     
  15. Fists o Foreman

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    I'm saying both get stopped by anyone half decent.......like Price.

    I'm also saying I don't think it out of the question that Charr could stop Fury........given Fury isn't too difficult to hit......even an over the hill "no defence" Rogan did quite well for 2 rounds.

    At the end of the day neither is going to be world beater......peace.