The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Okay, but what are the repercussions of that which is "legal?" In the Montaya-GBP thing, that's where my beef lies.
     
  2. dranon

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    :lol::lol:
     
  3. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Does GBP really feel that its been defamed? Let's take a more jaundiced view of their motives.
     
  4. Hermit

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    Montoya isn't worried about it so let it go. They sent a threat (their right) , he wiped his ass with it and posted it. He used it to his advantage as was his legal right.
     
  5. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    It's only 9:30 in LA it'll be up a little later I'm sure if it's not already.
     
  6. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    ****in Oscar :patsch he really shouldn't even have twitter :!:
     
  7. JASPER

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    Its not blind love, only a blind man could not see the hatred you hold for the man. That same blind man cannot see how his Hatred could undermine his credibility in regards to the above said fighter. I Know that you broke those stories and i am guessing that they all did VADA testing.

    Yes, the article was very informative but you do not realize that you undermined your story by focusing it an the fighter who you have spent most of your time discrediting. While your focus on Mayweather would bring more attention to the article it distracts the reader from what should be the focus.

    Hell the article could have been powerful if you did not split your focus to take a swipe at floyd and try to attack him. The guy is the person who is the most responsible for the heighten awareness for PEDS by far. Yet, you are more worried about using whatever chance you get to smear him.

    so was your article written to investigate or educate? It looks like you are trying to do both but came up short on the investigation because in the end you lack proof in you attack on GBP, and for Mayweather all you did was have the readers infer that there was something that was deeper then a personal relationship with Dr Hale.

    It is easy to understand why people, given your history, thought that this was nothing but a veil attempt at hurting the career of Mayweather. If that was your intention, and I kinda think it was, you failed because you had no smoking gun or anything that can remotely look like one.

    As A fan of Pacs i hate to bring him up in this light but he is the one that is not doing any testing . . . you are worried about 4-1. If your purpose to eliminate Ped usage in the sport you will foster a lot more support if you are more even handed and in this case more focused on the issue that i hope is at the heart of your article.
     
  8. BigReg

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    I'm sorry, but you can't make that sort of an assumption. When you're discussing legality or even right or wrong, you have to look outside just the specific case at hand. I have no idea if GBP really feels they were defamed. But let's assume that it's obvious that they weren't defamed. What is the downside of them threatening legal action? The party being threatened will disregard the threat as they will know it had no basis. If the party issuing the threat files a suit, the judge will dismiss it.

    Of course, everything is not black and white. In most cases, you wouldn't be able to tell the state of mind of the threatening party. Telling someone who feels that they have been legally wronged that they can't even notify the offending party of the alleged wrongdoing has much bigger negative consequences than allowing anyone to threaten legal action for any reason they feel like.
     
  9. Bladegunner

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    Gabe get to work on getting vada contract with donaire so we can have full disclosure. If donaire or top rank refuses then something most certainly must be up right?
     
  10. Bladegunner

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  11. GabrielMontoya

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    Tons of misinformed nothing to say.

    Your guess was wrong.

    And you are referencing the wrong article. "For the record" is what you should read.
     
  12. JASPER

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    "for the record" was written after this thread was started. I do not go to your sight as much as I once did so I missed it.

    Skimmed the Article, not much time right now so I will check it out later. I re-read the other article again and thought . . . maybe he tried to put to much into it? I would have focused strictly on an education side. However, you got yourself into trouble when you brought up GBP (in more ways than one) and all the unanswered questions you placed about PBF.

    you should have never, ever got associated with that HACK Scoop.

    when investigating something your questions are dangerous, if they are going in the right direction and even more so if you are going in the wrong direction.
     
  13. Hermit

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    The USADA won't be forthcoming anytime soon since they won't even give the full test results up when subpenaed to do so.

    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=413176[/url]
     
  14. Bladegunner

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    I remember when floyd lawyer ask the judge to force pac to submit all his medical records as the ones which were provided were not acceptable.

    Floyd lawyer claimed I quote.

    "Pacquiao’s counsel “have only disclosed the names of two of Pacquiao’s doctors. A plastic surgeon in the US and a gastroenterologist in the Philippines. In addition,
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    Mayweather’s lawyers referred to the “limited number of drug testing results provided” and insisted “that information is insufficient.”

    This is just tit for tat, a story which dates back a while, yet Gabe is pretending as if it some big conspiracy.

    I just find it funny how Gabe blatantly ripped off STEVE WEISHAMPEL's article then claimed he got inside information and pretends as if he's the one with these incredible sources.
     
  15. PBFred

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    Interesting post here.

    There are side meetings and dialogue between promoters and journalists that include the use of leverage and incentives both ways. Gabe basically validates this, not that it's any sort of surprise but it is surprising that he is willing to divulge it.

    He needs to earn a living and there are other parties involved that can impact his ability to do that and ultimately his content and opinions are influenced. For those like Jack earlier wondering why he is going after this story at one angle and not at another, here is your answer. It's not necessarily a question of integrity but more out of survival which every career person will understand.

    IMO, Kevin Iole is the one true boxing scribe left who tells it like it is without being influenced.
     
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