USADA Motions to Quash Pacquaio request to subpoena FMJ Medical Records

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  1. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Still laughing at gabe stealing a story then pretending he had inside info. Then cries when people steal his stories. Lol

    Journalism world is ruthless boy.
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    The level of corruption that you and others are alleging is earth shattering. Do you see how far this can go?:deal
     
  3. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Until someone comes forward and explains how they know mayweather tested positive, those claims are baseless.

    Do u know the terms of the contract or are u just speculating?
     
  4. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    The good news is hopefully this will progress enough in which it exposes USADA as being corrupt so that we may get all these answers.
    Thats why we need this to happen...
     
  5. Hermit

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    It isn't corrupt for them to honor the terms of a specific contract.
     
  6. leftleftright

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    Stop with the conspiracy theories -- USADA simply wants to maintain the confidentiality of their testing. They know that if confidentiality is breeched, future clients will not want to test. I'm sure that's what their motion to quash says without having read it.
     
  7. Hermit

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    Last question cuz I have other things to do and this is all been posted.

    It is all speculation that was raised by GBP's own lawyers for most of us. Most of us incorrectly assumed Mayweather and his supporters would say, "Sure, this is all about cleaning up the sport. I'll show you I have nothing to hide and let you look at the terms of the contract and the actual test results". Boy, were "us" wrong. Again, the test results mean nothing without the science to back them up. Period. This is standard scientific procedure. NO way around that. So, at this point while Floyd may be appearing to do the right thing, we simply have no PROOF that he is.

    This is really simple. It is a transparent process or it isn't. GBP/Floyd doesn't even have to make this publicly available. They can get a trusted intermediary to take a look at this and issue a finding. Stonewalling only leads to the same speculation that fueled the "Pac is guilty because he won't take the test" mentality. Floyd's fans don't seem to see the double standard here.
     
  8. vonBanditos

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    I guarantee you that will not happen. Let us imagine the absolute worst case scenario for Floyd - that he's actually paying off the USADA and he has failed several tests. If that actually happened then he'd just drop his claim and then discovery would stop. I mentioned this earlier, but Floyd's claim is a hilarious joke as it is. Floyd has a 0% chance of winning his defamation claim. They may be seeking these records just to force him to drop the claim so they don't have to bother to litigate it.
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    So with your line of thought big name athletes who undergo USADA testing have specific contracts that allow for positive test right? That is nothing short of corruption.:deal
     
  10. Hermit

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    You obviously can't follow my line of thought and I've laid it out as simply as I could. Sorry. You don't understand the concept of "legal".
     
  11. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why did Pacquiao's lawyers ask USADA for Mayweather's medical records? Due to the fact that they are lawyers, I'm sure that they already know that USADA doesn't have the legal right to release these documents. In order to release medical records, you need permission from that particular person. In this case, that would be Floyd Mayweather Jr. Why didn't they ask Floyd to have these records released?

    They went to USADA instead of Mayweather, because they knew that it would have to be turned down. Then Manny's lawyers can pretend that Floyd and USADA are hiding something, because they know that there are a lot of ignorant people who hate Floyd and they will try to use this to discredit him while not looking at the actual circumstances behind it all.

    You Mayweather haters can't be this desperate to make him look bad can you? If you're going to push an agenda, at least hide it better and use credible arguments that can't be pushed to the side so easily. There are too many holes in this foolish story for reasonable people to take it seriously.
     
  12. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am a bit confused by two counter-arguments being made by some posters, in opposition to the idea of Floyd Mayweather being asked to produce records of his tests.
    The main question, throughout, has been why Floyd is not prepared to provide the details behind the very testing he is championing. It’s quite a simple question really and so I don’t see how the answer to this is, a) remotely dependent on Pacquiao providing test results, through a privately contracted agency and, b) anything to do with testing in other sports, which are governed by either National Leagues or other overarching Committees.

    Firstly, as has already been stated, Floyd was the instigator of a new drugs testing regime in Boxing. This is a standard that he has set himself and, therefore, I see no reason why he should not demonstrate his own total and unequivocal adherence to that standard. The question of what lies behind the standard has been asked by way of journalistic investigation (which yielded an interesting attempt to legally block such enquiry) and, more recently, by Pacquiao’s lawyers. Pacquiao taking a test through VADA or USADA will neither further these enquiries nor answer the question at hand.

    Secondly, the testing programmes for other sports are determined through the Governors of the associated Leagues and or Committees and are not comparable to a unique programme, which has been tailored and agreed between USADA and an individual Boxer (through his Promoter).
     
  13. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It doesnt seem to b the same situation but u r right, there r some similarities. Floyd has passed drug tests, pac flat out refuses to take any until recently. However, pac still hasnt taken any tests.

    I dont think mayweather refusing to release the results indicates he is guilty. No one would help the opposition prove they r guilty, in any situation. Its similar to the cops saying, " let us search ur car if you have nothing to hide."
     
  14. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So let me get this straight.. Team Pac is asking for medical records on Floyd's USADA tests for his 3 fights with them.. USADA denies this request, first reason being Mayweather didn't get notice of the subpoena, which is required.. And we have 10 pages questioning why they won't release them?

    Do you guys read what's posted? Because the **** I just quoted was on the first two pages.. If Pac's lawyers can't even get the process correct why the hell would USADA release the information? :lol: You guys are desperate as hell. :lol: :rofl
     
  15. Zacker

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    Thanks for posting. That saved me a minute or two.