Wing Chun and Peek-a-boo Boxing comparison

The minute combos start getting unloaded by any decent amatuer boxer the fake wing chun bs would simply get this guy knocked out bad.

 

put one of these air punching masters with a decent amateur boxer and he would get K.O'd , as dranon said !!

 

:deal

 

Demonstrations are always inconclusive. The only true test is under competition conditions.

 

Gulp, here goes...

Even as an unofficial WC follower, I've heard Cheung has a reputation amongst his WC peers for being an egomaniac and a liar (several Ip Man students actually put aside their differences temporarily to issue a joint letter against Cheung). Not to mention that embarrassing fracas with fellow idiot Emin Boztepe.

ANyway, just for kicks, here's a vid of 2 normal guys sparring, one a WC practitioner, the other BAgua Fist guy. LOL, I think the WC guy has some boxer 'DNA' in him he can't scrub off. Notice how he wants to chain punch but semblances of hooks 'leak' out:

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At least these 2 don't look like they're dancing some sort of Master/Student Appreciation Waltz.

 

Did someone say...DANCING :happy

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This video shows how worthless it is :rofl I

 

Martial arts and combat sports have an effectiveness directly proportional to the amount of contact they use in training/sparring and competition. The higher the level of contact, the more effective it is.

Sitting at the top of that ladder are competitive grappling arts, these let you train at or near 100% and you can compete very regularly: BJJ, Judo, Wrestling, Submission Grappling, etc.

Along side/just below that are higher level competitive striking arts, boxing, kickboxing, muay thai. You can train/spar with a high level of contact, but rarely 100% (hopefully) and competition is as hard as it gets, but generally less frequent than the grappling arts.

Sitting below that are some of the harder or more competitive traditional styles, Kyokushin Karate, other full contact styles, San Shou/Sanda and the higher levels of competitive Tae Kwon Do.

Located much farther down the list are your semi-contact, touch-contact arts. Semi-contact Karate, most Tae Kwon Do schools, etc. I'd put Aikido and other 'cooperative' styles around here around here.

Right at the bottom are your non-contact arts. Go Kan Ryu is a perfect example, all of the arts that are "too dangerous to use" pretty much end up down here.

People can say it all depends on the artist not the art, but that is largely bull****. It's the training that matters. I'll take a guy that does a **** art but spars hard and competes regularly over a guy that does the most effective system ever but never actually puts it to the test.

 

I think Primate is basically spot on here. :good

Although if I said one thing I'd have to put the MT, KB and boxing alongside the top greappling as equals. Us strikers condition more to take punishment over many years. Not all but alot of grapplers don't seem to take strikes to well.

Good post Primate. :thumbsup

 

Yeah, the top spots are more or less interchangeable, the only reason I rate the grappling arts ever so slightly higher is because the sparring aspect is that much closer to reality. But yeah they're more or less like level 1 and 1a.

 

The bare chested guy has faster hands and is a far superior fighter. Those factors usually far outweight the style the fighters might be employing.

 

This can be very true as well. Natural athletic skill and a strong will to fight can take some guys futher than others, but they need the correct system to take it up a level and turn them into good fighters.

However, I think some fighting systems naturally weed out non fighters early on due to the tuoghness of the style and the training that goes along with it, boxing, MT etc have a high drop out rate in proper gyms. You can practice TKD, KF or Karate etc for years and years attain allsorts of rainbow belts and sashes but never have dealt or taken a punch or kick with intent.

 

All true mate. Some styles initiate so little contact and competition that the people training would have no idea whatsoever whether they could fight or not. If someone went BOO in the street they'd probably **** themselves.

 

William Cheung - :rofl:rofl.

The "boxer" in the clip is actually one of his guys dressed as a boxer.
Watch the Emin Boetzepe fight with William Cheung and watch two WC guys make absolute dickheads of themselves with their rolling around on the ground.

Bob Jones took care of William in the late 1970's via dojo storm.

 

Care to elaborate on that PIRA?