Joe Louis H2H

I honestly think he has very little chance against Tyson and Ali. Out of respect I won't say no chance but I'm thinking a slim chance. Not far off from a puncher's chance. After that, though, I think he is live and can not be counted against nearly any other HW. That's not to say he's favored against them all. Louis would be more likely to be ranked near the middle or bottom of a top 10 H2H list than the top IMHO. Don't ask me why I count him out against Ali and Tyson. For me, it's obvious. I know I'll get sound responses as to why that's erroneous thinking.

 

louis is a complete fighter. a come forward technical power puncher. he struggles against guys who are slick or who crowd him.

so he would struggle against a frazier or a chris byrd type

 

He'd lost to Tyson, Lewis, Ali, Holyfield. Marciano may well beat him unless he has a good gameplan. Jack Johnson may outbox him. Wlad and Vitali should beat him. Some boxer movers who aren't greats could win decisions against him

Louis is great achieved plenty, at his best electric but he always seemed very beatable and there were styles he had nightmares with (movers), he admitted to not coping well with pressure fighters and he was quite hittable, so punchers with speed would be another problem

 

Wicked combinations in that one. Holy could have some success roughing Louis up and outmuscling him but I think Louis would come out on top more often than not, and I might be the biggest Holyfield advocate on this forum.

 

He's my #2 H2H...behind Ali. At HW of course.

 

My only problem with this is Louis came into many fights at 198 lbs or so.

 

Dear lord, you're hard to impress ! Here's a link to three great articles by ESB poster McGrain :

http://www.boxing.com/how_to_box_by_joe_louis_part_1the_foundation_of_skill.html

http://www.boxing.com/how_to_box_by_joe_louis_part_2the_jab_left_hook.html

http://www.boxing.com/how_to_box_by_joe_louis_part_3the_right_hand.html

 

Wlad Klitchsko and Johnson would both be murdered. People would calls the cops.

 

Louis is not even in my top100 H2H

 

Dempsey is a harder fight for Louis than Holyfield IMO....

 

I can dig that if your list looks something like this...

#1 Old Testament God
#2 Godzilla
...
#5 A Nuclear Submarine
...
#10 The Kraken
...
#50 King Kong

#75 T-34 Tank
...
#101 Joe Louis

 

Kraken KO2 Godzilla.

 

No way! Godzilla can breathe nuclear fire. plus he was indestructible. In addition Godzilla fought tons of monsters his size, while the Kraken had a huge size advantage over everyone and still lost. I seriously think you need to watch more Godzilla if you're taking the Kraken.

 

Dempsey
Liston
Ali
Frazier
Holmes
Tyson
all beat him

Foreman
Holy

Are 50/50

 

Tops.