Is sergio martinez the most athletic white boxer ever?

Race is a social construct more than a biological one.

Ethnicity is a more important and useful concept than race.

Race has always been a definition of extremes that blurs the transitional reality.

 

I agree, but it's mostly true.

I bet 98% of Amercans can't even name a SINGLE country that is south of Mexico. (Some would probably guess Puerto Rico, seriously.) Most probably think Argentina & Bolivia are in Europe, and Venezuela is "an island, over there by Hawaii someplace."

Ignorant, self-centered Americans... I'm often embarrassed to be one.

 

Excuse me, no Latino would like to be treated as a white man, he is a man by himself but don't come here to say what it is not. Either way, people do not consider race cards anymore or they do and the truth must be told. Both Martinez and Chavez Jr like Duran, Arguello, Sanchez, Rosario, JCC Sr, Camacho, Monzon r not caucasians or else you are insulting them, go and tell Cotto in his face that he is not a Latino and you end up flat on the ground. Bottom line, there are no advantages or problems in being afro-american, asian, caucasian-western european, caucasian-eastern european, caucasian-american, african, arab or whateva in boxing... You have it and you work hard to get it or else retire and do something else.

 

I am from Argentina and despite is not 90% as some people said, there is a big % of people that consider themselves as whites (including me) and many mestizos descendants (indian/spanish mix) but it is not like in US. Most of european descendants are italian and spanish descendants (there are german, irish descendants too) so you won't find so many blond/nordic looking people. There is some racism but not US style racism at all. There are not different subcultures or things like that. It is mostly an income/education thing. What is weird about Martinez is that he sounds (in spanish of course) as a very educated man despite coming from a poor neighborhood. As an example Maidana has a very small voacabulary, he doesn't talk too much and he is from a poor origin too. Regarding Martinez "ethnic" origin, nobody cares at all. And Latino is a US label for their inmigrants, not used outside US, it is not like a chilean or paraguayan think of themselves as latin.

 

That is very much true, you argentineans or argentines are a very arre mix of euro-italians, euro-spanish and indians from the rest of the sub-continent. No doubt Maravilla looks exactly like a euro.

 

Bingo. Exactly !!:good

 

lol at some of the idiots in this thread

 

Of course they are latinos...they are white latinos!

Much like Gamboa and Miranda are black latinos

 

Well, I don't know if he's the most talented white boxer ever. Depends what you mean by athletic.

But he's on a skill level (but not accomplishment level) with my six-pack of alltime most naturally talented boxers, all of which are black. (SRR, Ali, SRL, Pea, RJJ, Floyd).

Too bad he started so late !

 

I believe he is greek/Spaniard blooded. He is still latino though. Argentina is like 90% european immigrants, mostly italy and germany.

 

prove it.

 

Oh shut the **** up.

Trust me, if you have visited Latin America, then you know that racism is alive and well. Talk to folks whose lineage traces back to purely to Spain, and not Spanish-Indio, and you'll find plenty of racism.

And this is coming from someone of Spanish ancestry.

 

Yup.

Idiots on this site seem are under the misapprehension that Europeans only emigrated to what later became the United States. :-(

Here's a little heads-up to those folks:

Amer-Indians, mestizos, castizos, and the various black and black/white/Indio folks of Latin America speak SPANISH.

And just how the **** do you think that happened?

 

Calzaghe, cue slappy comments but incredible athlete with amazing stamina.

 

don't know about the greek part . but he has the typical euro- mediterranean look that spaniards and italians , greeks etc..... have .

but for some reason some idiots think that this guy

This content is protected

this guy

This content is protected

and this guy

This content is protected

are part of the same race just because they speak spanish as a native language :verysad