The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Santino

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    yeah gabe, same question as hermit, can you give us a hint and just for confirmation, another UK fighter?
     
  2. Emeritus

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    PBFred does make a good point anyone can see that you do take alot of direction from Conte who claims that Ariza supplies peds. Couple that with Ariza's infamous statement that Manny doesn't know whats in the shakes he gives him does make for suspicion don't you think Gabriel?
     
  3. Hermit

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    If Ariza was supplying TR made a very stupid move getting rid of him the way they did. Didn't Arum say he was going to recommend Jr's new guy to Manny? Doesn't sound like a crew that seems concerned with possible blackmail.
     
  4. Ali_

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    I can tell you've never truly competed in any sport.

    A simple example as high-school confrontation fails to communicate and is lost on your paper-pushing mindset. Sweating, eating to stay competitive, the self propulsion to attain a physical state of excellency, the combatant's mind, all these ideas are lost on you.

    Because you have an agenda, your agenda drives you on your pretend crusade against 'cheating' in boxing... but you give a languid response like this ....

    ...in relation to the boxer who you feel some sympathy for mainly (as it seems) because you don't like Floyd Mayweather Jr. That response alone is indicative of your true stance to cheating and, in the framework of this entire discourse exposes you as a testless-Pac-sympathizer.

    So when Roger Mayweather says something like...

    ( ..and so on and so forth)

    You See No Evil, Hear No Evil, SpeakNo Evil.

    You as a (supposed) journalist, whom I thought were suppose to -at the very least- project their speculations based on facts, fail to PROVE Roger Mayweather wrong by showing where he was wrong and fail to show adequate testing that would put his allusions to rest. No. Instead you do the exact opposite.

    You come up with excuses and soft-words for Manny. You imply partisanship and craft statements of silver tongued bigotry, you pander propaganda or avoid what rationale leads one to believe as the obvious. Manny won't test, because Manny is hiding something.

    Instead...let's go after Mayweather. Why? For what? :oops:Just cause...but not really*...:oops:


    :verysad


    *cause GBP went after you for no reason....
     
  5. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Manny is within his rights to deny additional drug testing and I don't blame him"

    "Floyd's above-and-beyond drug testing results have been announced as a pass on three different occasions by USADA yet I demand full disclosure from Mayweather on the results and terms of the contract".

    Very neutral journalism here.
     
  6. GabrielMontoya

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    I don't agree. You missed a ton of the grey areas.
     
  7. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At least acknowledge the questions re Conte's claims on Ariza and why you referred to Ariza as steroid balls.
     
  8. JASPER

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    Guy made his name off of PBF and now he is trolling the Boards:lol:
     
  9. Emeritus

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    Well I didn't mention Top Rank only Manny Pacquiao and we know that Bob and Roach both tried to remove Ariza without success so what does that say?

    I think we can imagine a million possibilities of what did or didnt happen.

    However I am really trying to understand if Gabriel is being a fair journalist as that is what he calls himself.....I personally don't want to knock him but I don't think he is.

    Conte has REAL issues with USADA which stem from the fact that they are bigger and much more used than VADA which Conte has a vested interest in....Gabriel has ran with that....yet he hasn't picked up on the fact the Conte has publically called Ariza a PED supplier.

    Ariza himself came out with a very questionable statement that only he knows whats in Manny Pacquiaos shakes yet no follow up by Gabriel?

    To me he is picking and chosing....and not being impartial, but like I said Im done arguing with guys on the forum, Im just interested to see his response.
     
  10. GabrielMontoya

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    It's not mine to break. Someone else mentioned it and didn't say a name or anything. I don't roll like that, stealing people's stuff, ya know?
     
  11. LikeFatherNSon

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    Anyone who fully supported Manny refusing tests back in 2009 is/was an idiot.
     
  12. GabrielMontoya

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    You are operating without facts and the full picture?

    I'm not aware Conte said that? Dude, Victor was on our radio the same night we Ariza on. Conte came on first and called Ariza "the dope man." He was straight up about it. Ariza laughed it off and said he didn't know what that even means.

    Again, you guys want what YOU want. You've no patience and you want me to do this, that and the other thing and if I don't do it in your time frame, you assume I am not doing anything. Patience. Facts. Both of these are needed.
     
  13. PBFred

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    Or maybe Ariza is about to go down and Arum is trying to move all of his guys away from him.
     
  14. GabrielMontoya

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    Again, you are playing telephone and not even seeing how the message changes by the time it got to you.

    I didn't call Ariza "steroid balls."

    He was talking **** and saying I had "twitter balls" meaning I wouldn't say this **** to his face when we got into on twitter. What was funny was I had to be told he was talking **** about me because tough guy didn't put my name in the tweet about me. So I asked him if twitter balls "was anything like steroid balls?" It was a mean shot, sure. But he was attacking my credibility. I gave him a taste of his own medicine. he shut up soon after that.

    A couple sidenotes:

    Ariza agreed to be on our radio show hours after that to clear the air. Then, he called back in the morning or later that night and said he wouldn't come until he checked with his legal team or management or something. When push came to shove, Alex wanted no part of an interview with me. You can say what you want but I think we both know I'd have some good questions for him.

    Sidenote 2: I saw Alex at the Pacquiao media day. Our eyes met, he looked away. I saw him in Vegas. I was dead center of the media room. I asked a question at the post fight presser. Alex and I know each other. I used to train at the Wild Card. But oddly, this man who is apparently very, very angry with me, had nothing to say.
     
  15. Emeritus

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    No I'm not.....you are assuming I am. Firstly they have both called each other out for supplying their respective fighters with PEDS.

    The fact that they were both on any radio station simultaneously or one after the other doesn't prove they are friendly, or they like each other or they respect each other - just pointing this out fyi.

    I have patience plenty of it infact.......all I personally want is a cleaner and fairer sport and also fair unbiased reporting....now I don't think you are unbiased and I don't think you will ever admit that publicly or privately however even a broken clock is right two times each day. (I will also add that many reporters are not unbiased either so I view you as no worse or better than anyone else right now.)

    So I'm not dismissive of you, I'm willing to listen to what you have to say and I'm interested to see what you bring to the table I'm just skeptical about some of the things/subjects you talk about.
     
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