OFFICIAL: David Haye v Dereck Chisora Build-Up & Prediction Thread!

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Lilo, May 7, 2012.


  1. Lilo

    Lilo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm actually sick of saying this:

    HOW EXACTLY IS CHISORA GOING TO WIN?

    You can rule out Chisora KO - Haye has never been hurt badly at HW and Chisora hasn't got a KO at even true British level.

    Chisora Dec - :nono Why would Haye try to evade Chisora when he knows he hasn't got a dig? Chisora is try to gonna outwork Haye whilst being hit more than he has in any previous fight. Helenius stopped punching after round two (when he smashed Stella like a *****).

    Chisora hasn't fought anyone approaching Haye in terms of style, pedigree, speed and talent. Haye has fought someone of a similar style and level; he KO'd him in 9 (Ruiz), even coming in overweight and with a camp that contained very little sparring due to a cut.

    If Sam Sexton and Robert Helenius can hurt Chisora. If Tyson Fury can convincingly beat Chisora then the writing is on the wall for him.

    N.B: Another point Haye, look at the opponents Haye has fought who are the same height or smaller than him:

    Bonin
    Ruiz
    Barrett - All KOs at Heavyweight

    Mormeck
    Fragomeni - All KOs at Cruiserweight

    Haye will enjoy punching at a target on his eye level, rather than punching up.

    N.B 2: So basically people think that because Chisora is heavier (yes) and has an 'iron' chin (he doesn't) that he is going to get on Haye's chest and outwork.

    Listen, he'll try to get on Haye's chest but will be taking simple straight 1-2s that will hurt him. Should he get on Haye's chest, he can't hurt him anyway - he has no power.

    Haye KO7 Stella Chisora :ibutt
     
  2. suckeggs

    suckeggs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good agree with all of that... apart from the highlighted part. Chisora won't be on Hayes chest outworking Haye because Chisora doesn't have the foot speed to close the gap on this HW version of Haye who's movement has proven to be too much for fighters with much quicker feet than Del Boy.

    For Chisora to get within range of Haye he needs to be doubling up on the jab on the way in which he can't do. Chisora doesn't have a jab and can't punch at all unless he has set his feet. Del Boy is getting beat up next weekend and i'm so looking forward to bumping some threads on the GF so some of the Hayeters can eat some crow.
     
  3. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Going to check the odds on this out a few days before the fight and may whack a lump on a Haye ko if they're decent...

    It's all about levels at the end of the day...

    People actually thought Harrison might beat Haye, sure they were idiots, but I think there are plenty more where they came from...

    Haye will stop him, I am pretty certain of that...
     
  4. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chisora will TKO David Haye in round 10.
     
  5. Lilo

    Lilo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:

    Give me a reason why you think that? When the best fighter he has KO'd is Sam Sexton.
     
  6. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here's what's gonna happen on fightnight.

    Haye will be dominant in the early rounds and knockdown Chisora once if not several times. As the fight goes on however David "Toemaker" Haye will run a little out of steam, and Chisora will gradually start to take control of the fight. Eventually in RD10 Chisora will knock down David Haye with a bodyshot. As Haye gets up, Chisora will continue to work the body, forcing Haye to drop his hands. Eventually leading to a TKO/Stoppage in RD10.
     
  7. Kennedy

    Kennedy Member Full Member

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    When will episode 2 of the build up be up?
     
  8. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Today. Chisora still looks fat. Quite disappointing really.
     
  9. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    And then you woke up and had your cornflakes
     
  10. red boy

    red boy Active Member Full Member

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    What time will the fight start next saturday?
     
  11. jharnett9

    jharnett9 Member Full Member

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    Licensing says no later than 10pm but you can guarantee is will run at least 15 minutes late...
     
  12. MattMattMatt

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    I love the tags.

    As for the winner, I think Haye is evidently a class above in terms of skill and many physical attributes. However, as we all know, styles make fights...and if you re-watch the Fragomeni fight you will see how Haye might struggle against someone like Chisora.

    The difference is that Chisora probably has better punch resistance and more power than Fragomeni, but perhaps a little less refined. Haye has never been known for his stamina, so if Chisora can keep the pace up, keep the fight in close quarters and limit the time Haye has to set up his one shot counters, then he may well tire Haye out. While I don't think Haye has terrible Stamina, I don't think he is naturally gifted in that respect, and is probably still prone to gassing if he is forced to fight at a high pace (which we must note is harder said than done when he has excellent power and speed to keep you honest on the way in).

    It should be obvious that Haye's advantage in speed and power has to be applied so that Chisora becomes unwilling to pressure and force the pace like he needs to. Those are the key factors for me. If Haye can land some good shots early, and make Chisora tentative, then he can probably coast the rest of the fight (or even get the KO...I don't see that happening though). If Chisora is not deterred, then I see a hard night for Haye...which he may still win, but it won't be a walk in the park.
     
  13. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wonder what the crowd support will be like for both fighters..?
     
  14. Lilo

    Lilo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Surely they'll be cheering for Haye, no one really knows who Chisora is apart from him being a complete ****.
     
  15. red boy

    red boy Active Member Full Member

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    Anyone worried about crowd violence? It seems a lot of football supporters are going and looking forward to a tear up.