The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

why did they block out ******e fortunes name?

 

J U S T I N E Fortune

 

If you like speculation let me throw this one out since I've wondered about it for awhile.

The term "synthetic" testosterone has suddenly become synonymous with the plant based (soy) variety which is detectable by CIR testing. This is much more common because it costs a lot less than animal based treatment. About 0.2% of people have soy allergies and wouldn't be able to use this. I haven't been able to confirm there are other sources available for those with soy allergies but from my reading I'm guessing that this wouldn't show up on the CIR testing which is the only test for synthetic testosterone as far as I know. So if cost isn't an issue to you does that mean you can beat the test? If you show up 100/1 ratio but pass the test does this mean you are good to go? Nevada only uses the 6/1 ratio to trigger further testing. If you are 20/1 but don't test positive for soy based testosterone are you 'golden'? Do they even have a limit if the CIR testing doesn't catch it?

 

I have no idea what you are getting at. first off, i never said cost wasnt an issue to me. also, nevada has a 6:1 ratio limit. if a fighter comes in at 6.01:1 he failed the test and has too much testosterone in his system. automatic fail. the CIR is used to detect synthetic testosterone. for example, Peterson tested at 3.77:1, which would be legal levels in ANY state in america. the reason he failed his test was because a CIR test indicated that the 3.77 reading of his testosterone was in fact synthetic, which is illegal unless a TUE is approved beforehand.

 

TUE = Therapeutic Use Exemption

 

Everyone else has said that ratio is the 'trigger' for CIR testing. Do you know something different?

 

My question to you is why are you so concerned with just Pacquiao? Why not all the fighters not testing?

And where did it say Pacquiao turned down testing with Bradley? Or are you assuming that? To my knowledge Manny did not turn down the testing offer.

 

the ratio is not the trigger for testing when it comes to VADA and USADA. as i said above, Peterson's ratio was UNDER the 6:1 Nevada ratio and also even under the national 4:1 ratio. the fact a CIR test was done on his urine sample shows that VADA issues the CIR test regarless of the ratio. also, when floyd fought miguel Cotto, every urine sample collected was also tested with CIR

 

Where do you get I am "close with Dr. Goodman?" Because I've interviewed her? Because I was ahead of the curve when it came to in-depth coverage of the beginnings of VADA as well as drug testing protocols in Nevada?

I've broken two stories about athletes testing positive that were not associated with Conte, Goodman, or VADA and I broke a story about USADA testing.

Its ridiculous to me that readers don't see the whole picture.

All 4 men I outed had tests done at the same lab. Yet Conte or Goodman must be my source because it fits the idea I am somehow biased for one group over the other.

I have said I like VADA because they take a very aggressive approach to their testing AND they are transparent in their approach. I wrote that they would be using CIR as a screener looong before they ever caught someone.


Roach was not with Toney the second time he was caught. Neither was Fortune. Fortune has sued Roach for his comments re: his steroid use and a settlement has been reached.

Facts, people. Get them.

 

He's showing why you seem to be not concerned with Pacquiao. He's just one of the biggest names in boxing. atsch

 

That's according to a press release. USADA motioned to quash releasing records that would prove the press release true.

 

Is he really showing me? Is he? or is he another impatient reader who thinks he knows how to do my job?

 

That is exactly my critic of that article. Gabe has a hate on for PBF and has since as far back as I can remember. People have to realize that if he had anything on Mayweather he would have put it in writing a long time ago. So this "investigative" report has very little credibility and comes off as nothing more than a smear campaign on PBF. Had he stuck with the first half of the article it would have been fine. What you wrote about roach is true and those strings are a lot tighter than the ones he tried to tie together with Mayweather but the first half could and should have stood on its own.

Ultimately, his report proves nothing. He has no evidence for anything he says and expects the reader to believe his word as gospel. Maybe he does has something on all the parties mentioned but you do not write something like this without all of his ducks in a row and solid proof for what he says. This story was not ripe at best. Now Gabe is on these boards trolling trying to rebuild some type of credibility.

 

This is why the last thread that involved you was shut down.

You talk about facts?

Was Toney caught w/ steroids while training under Roach? Yes or no.

Was Fortune Manny's prior S&C Coach? Yes or no.


You're trying to disregard the points made up by barely addressing them and responding in generalities.

You can't expose your source, fine. But from your articles, you take much of your expert commentary on the subject matter from Conte. You can't just disregard that fact and try to downplay it, now that the connection between you and him is questioned.

 

So, because a person questions you, they're impatient? Why do you even bother to post here? Just leave.

But you won't, cause you like the attention, whatever it gets you.