Why is it that Floyd cannot be beaten in all fantasy fights?

There is no blueprint. None.

how many losses does Ali have?

how many losses does Sugar Ray Robinson have?

how many losses does Floyd have?

well ok then.

 

btw, your lying your ass off.

nobody picks floyd to beat these guys. stop making **** up.

 

Let me ask ya'll this, when has Floyd ever fought a tall, rangy, boxer with a good jab or a larger counterpuncher?

The only guy I can think of is DLH. And he barely scraped by that fight, even though DLH was on the downside of his career.

Based on this, how people think he can beat Leonard based on his previous accomplishments makes absolutely no sense to me.

Floyd would get caught against the ropes, but Leonard would be patient enough to make Floyd throw, and then he would counter Floyd with hard to see combinations, punctuated by as hard punch or two.

SRL would knock Floyd out. It would help Floyd's case against SRL if he would take on Martinez.

While Martinez is a southpaw which presents different problems than SRL, there are no orthadox fighters worth their salt in or around his weight range that fit the description mentioned above.

I think a fight with Martinez would do wonders for Floyd's legacy and a win would prove that he would have a case against guys like SRL.

 

This is such a myth, just stfu.

 

Because the majority of his fans who take part in those kinds if threads are kids who dksab

 

I consider myself as a Knowledgable fan, who did a lot of research and even box. So i know the complexity of the techinque that fighters imploy. and the skill level between a prime Floyd jr to a prime Leonard or duran and compare their consistency and dominance it is really no contest as who is the better fighter/ability. To me he is one of the most complete boxer offense/defense in history.

It is quite painfully obvious that Floyd has the best skillset in the history of boxing. I have seen time and time again that you show a clip of floyd and a clip from like whitaker or SRL or duran or pac to a causal fan they have always Floyd.

 

Most fans have ADD and love to judge a fighter by their latest performance. They fail to realize that FLoyd is not a young buck anymore and yet he is still dominating. Most fighters doesn't dominate as long as he can outside of SRR. No one had a such a long stretch of sustain Success so fans start to assume what you see of Floyd of recent is at his best. Floyd at 130 is as good as they come and 130-140 weight he did everything perfect with respectable power and speed with great footwork and multi-layed defense. He could do it all. You can't really say that in most fighters who can just do it all and dominate their opponents like he did.

 

He can be beaten but he's a great H2H fighter. He's very complete can fight at all ranges with great defense and a high ring IQ. Those types will always be great H2H fighters.

 

Vernon Forrest would have given Floyd nightmares.

 

I really hate people who make threads about SRL or Duran or Hearn vs Floyd at 147 and above and assume is a fair fight. Those fighters are all naturally bigger than Floyd. So just because that it is a uphill and possibly losing battle for Floyd they label those fighters are greater when is not even fair.

You stick those fighters vs Floyd at 130 then Floyd will have the advantage. If a fighter who is naturally bigger goes down to an uncomfortable weight then they will be physically weaken and that is not fair for them either. But if they are competing at 140 where is the middle ground for FLoyd vs SRL, Duran, and still struggling for Hearn. Then I would favor Floyd slightly. Why bc he got more ability, he can do more, he can fight multiple ways and adapt to different styles. Most Greats doesn't have that ability.

 

I don't see any version of Floyd that can beat SRL. SRL has too much killer instinct for Floyd, no matter what Floyd decides to do.

Additionally, when Floyd throws I can see where SRL would lay it down to the point where Floyd is only throwing one punch at a time, and slowly being cornered against the ropes.

He defenitely isn't going to bring the fight to SRL. And once Floyd is against the ropes against SRL, the fight isn't gonna last long.

SRL will patiently wait for Floyd to open up, throw shots to his body, and get outside his range, and then when Floyd opens up, SRL will start landing some fireworks.

Until Floyd fights a large counterpuncher, we won't know how he'll match up with guys like that.

Look at BHOP for instance. He consistantly challenges himself by fighting anybody.

Yes, he lost against Dawson, but at age 48. In contrast, he beat the **** outta Tarver, who is a taller, rangier counterpuncher, and a southpaw on top of that.

To me, that's a huge accomplishment, even if Tarver is obviously not on the same level as the elite fighters we are mentioning.

Still though, I can't think of Floyd fighting a bigger counterpuncher at any point in his career.

If he fights the older Martinez, and wins, then he can be in the same conversation as SRL.

 

Floyd throwing one shot at a time is 147lbs and higher floyd. At 140 and below he was a boxer puncher who put punches to the body and head on top of feints. He is smart enough to know that he can't get hit by a bigger guy so he pot shots. And he is sharp with his pot shots and causes damage with it too but putting his whole body into. He have broken many fighters down with just his lead right and eventually to a KO. Again who again who is the history of boxing could feint so well that they hardly miss a lead right?

For example... and i am no where near Floyd or any pro boxer's level but... Whenever i spar with bigger guys and they are trying to trade with me, which by instinct i had no choice but to try to feint them with single shots so i don't have to try and focus on hitting and escaping. It is the same concept why he pot shots in higher weight bc he doesn't want to take punishment, if he doesn't have to.

 

It's a little harder to land a lead right hand against a rangy counterpuncher than it is against guys that came right towards him like, Cotto, Ortiz, and Hatton.

Wouldn't you agree?

 

Yes i agree. Which is why i agree that someone like Prime Oscar, Hearns and Forrest have a much better shot to beating him than Leonard or Duran who have a good jab but not outstanding like a Forrest or Prime Oscar Jab who can somewhat pinned floyd from sniping them over and over again..

And Forrest is no where near the level of SRL or Duran but he got the size and one of the tools that bothers floyd the most.

Duran loves to go to the inside and throw a lot of power shots. How often does Floyd get tagged by power shots against anyone at 130-135???? Plus Duran just got decent hand speed and foot speed. Yes Duran is tough but whats good of tough if you can't land your shots?

Duran have the least chance to beat FLoyd at 130-140