Why didnt Calzaghe renew his visa when Tarver, Pavlik came onto the scene?

Chad didnt want to fight Calzaghe at SMW, Chad wanted to fight Calzaghe at LHW. Joe Calzaghe didnt want to fight Chad.

I think that is obvious, but you are not seeming to accept it yourself.

I never said Dawson wanted the fight. Chad Dawson himself said it.

Calzaghe never once, has said he wants a Dawson fight :deal But Dawson has said he wanted a Calzaghe fight at LHW. Joe Calzaghe didnt want it, he wanted cocaine.

Dawon calling out Calzaghe was legit, Chad Dawson was the #1 ranked LHW in the world.

Calzaghe was at LHW and quickly ran off with his paper title. He didnt want to stay long enough and face challenges from Pascal, BHop and Dawson. He wanted to sniff coke.

Calzaghe never chased Jones Jr. He called him washed up at times and also said he would want the crown jewels for a fight.

Look at you praising Tocker Pudwill, Manfredo, Sobot and Thornberry. But you think Chad Dawson wasnt good enough.

Chad Dawson was the #1 ranked LHW in the world who held legit titles at the weight.

Chad Dawson > Pudwill, Thornberry and Sobot.

I cant believe you think Tocker Pudwill is better than Dawsonatsch

Is it?

Calzaghe held a paper title at LHW. You know its a fact, Calzaghe is a one weight champ not 2 weight. The ring wasnt repersenting the true lineage at the time.

Chad Dawson was the WBC LHW, IBF LHW and IBO LHW champ. He has held major territory at LHW.

Now he is going down to SMW to try and conquer Andre Ward's territory. A credit to the sport IMO, I never liked Dawson much but he has shown warrior spirit in all this.

The facts are clear. Its from Calzaghe's mouth himself.

Joe Calzaghe never wanted more fights at LHW, he lacked motivation and sniffed coke.

Calzaghe chased Tarver for years. Calzaghe lacked motivation and didnt want to stay in LHW longer.

Why cant Calzaghe fight both? **** the triangle theory you are still using it.

Ok you say the link does work, please provide an excerpt from it. The link seems not to work for no one else on ESB except you.

Calzaghe didnt want Froch, its clear.

Is it.

Froch called out Calzaghe when he was WBO champ, and called out Calzaghe when he retired also. You the one who is in denial.

And because Froch says he would not win on points you think Calzaghe would win?

you showed yourself to be gullible,

Calzaghe was shaken up by RJJ, Kabery Salem, Mitchell, and 42 hopkins.

Froch hit harder than them all, is more aggressive than them all, and has a better chin than them all.

Anyway, no point going into fantasy match up, since Calzaghe himself was too ***** to take on his #1 mando, we will never know what would have happend.

 

Its all easy work man.:smoke

 

Right and RJJ was "shaken up" by DeValle. Hopkins was to Mercado, etc. Face it, Joe finished undefeated. And there were no robberies in there. Hopkisn was supposed to beat him, as was Kessler, as was Lacy, etc. There is always somebody up and coming. Get over it and stop being irrational.

 

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After the removal of the false disgraceful insincere accusation's thrown by ESB's number 1 Calzaghe ass kisser, accusing Carl 'The Cobra' Froch of ducking, the question is, why didnt this fight get made, and who ducked who?

I will just lay down some facts in chronological order for you to decide and derive your own opinion.

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"I'd like to fight Calzaghe, probably next year after a couple of fights for the British title," said Froch.

"That would be an outrageous win because Calzaghe's a good fighter, a very strong fighter, he's been around a few years, and I just feel I've got exactly what you need to beat him." - Carl Froch at 13-0

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3673602.stm

At this point, Carl Froch wasn't even the British SMW champion, however he still showed desire in fighting WBO SMW champion Joe Calzaghe.

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"Froch will have to work like I have done to establish myself on the world scene," - Joe Calzaghe

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3698536.stm

After these words where Calzaghe dismissed Carl Froch, Calzaghe went on to fight:-

Kabery Salem
Mario Veit

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"Then when Ashira walked out I almost choked on my cocoa. I had to do a double take to make sure it wasn't Baby Jake Matlala.

"I have come to expect Joe to pick on easy targets,"

I believe Calzaghe knows that isn't that hard a job.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=4633&more=1

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"Why doesn't Joe get bold and call me out? Like I said before, perhaps he knows what I do: that I will smoke his boots, I will end his career.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=4633&more=1

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"Bully's don't call out the real big boys. They like to have things stacked in their favour, they want it all on their own terms. That's why when the going gets tough they run home to their daddies."

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=4633&more=1

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"I know what to do to beat Calzaghe,.......I don't think Calzaghe will fight me unless I put a meaningful title on the line but if I get one of the major belts he could not swerve me. - Carl Froch

"Carl will prove himself to be the best fighter in the country bar none. I truly believe he will knock Calzaghe out." - Fat Mick

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/5023478.stm

Froch hoped for a Calzaghe fight, when Calzaghe just beaten Jeff Lacy.

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WBO rankings at this point stood like:-

Champ: Joe Calzaghe
1. Dennis Inkin
2. Lucian Bute
3. Carl Froch

Calzaghe never fought any of the three closest ranked fighters.

"Joe says he's looking to make the most money possible from his next fight,........ Given the options open to him, that must mean fighting me. It certainly wouldn't mean someone like Inkin. - Carl Froch.

"I am a proper challenger. I am the best in the division and politics shouldn't stop us meeting. It would be an exciting battle before I

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6545105.stm

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or fight me, then we will see what kind of man he is" - Carl Froch

we all know what Joe Calzaghe did, he vacated.

"If he is a proud and strong man and a warrior, which I believe he is, he should step in the ring with me and we will put on a great British fight. - Carl Froch

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6390425.stm

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"I consider myself world class now," the Nottingham fighter added. "I am on Joe's trail at the moment and I have already said I am willing to step up to light-heavyweight.

"There are other fights out there for me - Jurgen Breahmer and Christian Sannavia - but Joe Calzaghe is the big one for me." - Carl Froch

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7085122.stm

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Calzaghe vs Hopkins, Joe was offered less something around £3.5 Million

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"My argument is not will Joe Calzaghe fight me because maybe I don't want to fight Joe Calzaghe,"

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/extra/441991-froch-says-no-go-to-joe-calzaghe#ixzz1zgEGGoiD

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"I dont think that fight will ever happen now, especially as Calzaghe's lifestyle was recently exposted......

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I really dont care if he does come out of retirement or not," - Carl Froch

http://www.***********.com/carl-froch-calzaghe-regret-his-decision-not-me--27129

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"I wanted the challenge and he didn't. End of story - Carl Froch

http://www.***********.com/carl-froch-calzaghe-regret-his-decision-not-me--27129

 

benchorda

Do you know what the discussion is about, its basically making Calzaghe nutthuggers accept the fact

Calzaghe didnt want to fight Dawson, Hopkins II, Froch, and many other LHW's because he lacked motivations.

Instead, he retired and sniffed Coke. Read the whole thread before jumping in man.

 

Why don't you just re-name the thread "I hate Joe Calzaghe"

 

Because he was ready to retire. I hated the RJJ fight though.

 

I didnt read your other posts as you have shown to be shot, but lets just look back at this

Froch says no to Calzaghe
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/extra/441991-froch-says-no-go-to-joe-calzaghe
Froch was looking at Pavlik where the article states "who was hammered on points by Bernard Hopkins"

Or

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Froch saying he couldnt beat Calzaghe on points 6:32
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And lets not forget
Chad obviously didnt want to fight Calzaghe at SMW, when holding a low WBO SMW belt to get in mandatory position, drops the belt and takes easier fights than Calzaghe and that Chad is now back at SMW.
Please stop ducking this

Great thing is watching you keep changing your opinion when you called Jones the former LHW lineal champ and now back tracked .
Dont worry, its not as bad as when you called Cleverly the lineal champ atsch

 

All you doing in that post is gargling Calzaghe's balls

I will try and break it down for you in simpler terms in my next post, pay attention.....

 

Dont bother. I have found that we have done a complete circle. Though interestingly you have changed your views about lineal champs after my schooling

 

bailey, look here son you are contradicting Joe Calzaghe and Carl Froch. I personally dont trust your opinion on boxing as it come from two sources:-

1. Kissing Joe Calzaghe's ass
2. Boxrec

But look here boy, you aint on the same wavelength as Froch nor Calzaghe so whatever you say is to be rejected :smoke:-

bailey says Carl Froch

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want a Joe Calzaghe fight:

Joe Calzaghe says Carl Froch

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want a title shot

"He

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a pay day."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7779542.stm

Joe Calzaghe says he

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want to fight Carl Froch

"He wants a pay day and I'm not going to give him one as I

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like the guy."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7779542.stm

Carl Froch says he

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a Joe Calzaghe fight at LHW

"I am on Joe's trail at the moment and I have already said I am

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to step up to light-heavyweight.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7085122.stm

Carl Froch says Calzaghe

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"I wanted the challenge and he

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. End of story - Carl Froch

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Calzaghe says Froch wanted it, but bailey says Froch didnt. I reject bailey's opinion and take Joe Calzaghe's as Calzaghe is more credible.

Froch says he wanted it, but bailey says Froch didnt. I reject bailey's as his mouth is still gargling Calzaghe's nuts since the Tocker Pudwill fight, and Froch's opinion is more credible.

I can go into Mick Hennessy and maybe few more credible individuals on this issue, and they all dont agree with Calzaghe ass kisser bailey, but agree with A Great Pwnage hander outer, the legendary, real deal holyfield, most ducked most feared man on ESB realsoulja

 

Read the link son :smoke.
Still you go on about someone calling out a retired fighter, but the link tells another story. Anyone can say they want a certain fight. I recall N Benn saying he wanted to fight Jones at ringside, but he admitted years later he never did.
I remember when Calzaghe owned Lacy, Froch then started saying he wants to win a world title first so he has something to offer and back tracked from the times you note on Ashira.
Still look at the post and the highlighted part I produced. Enjoy kid

 

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After countless pwnages, and a barrage of ESB sonning of bailey by the legendary ESB poster realsoulja, bailey finally found the courage to provide a source other than boxrec.

Who is this source, it is none other than fish eyed OG promoter Frank Warr.en.

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Frank ****** (********************) says Froch didn't fancy Joe Calzaghe, and then wished Carl Froch good luck for his Jermain Taylor fight:-

I met with Froch when he was out of contract with his promoter — and he made it clear that he

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a fight against Joe.

But it will be good for British boxing

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— and I wish him good luck

1. Frank says Froch didnt want Calzaghe.
2. Frank wishes Froch luck for the Taylor fight.

Right after the Jermain Taylor fight, Froch suddenly contradicts Frank Warr.en :roflatsch

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bailey and Frank Warre.n both get owned at the same time. :smoke

 

Joe cal top 10 most overated fighter ever. Stayed at home fighting bums all his career and came out to fight a 42 year old bhop and gets dropped by bhop.... who the hell gets kd by bhop????? that was just sad and he lost that fight. against jones was a joke who was shot to hell and gun shy.

 

Its been the same source, which before you claimed didnt work and now have read it. Also you have to remember Calzaghe was not with his promoter then and tied up in court issues, so I dont doubt what his old promoter claims when he had no close ties.
Froch calls out Calzaghe after he retires and you make out that is something to behold
A fighter retires and then gets called out , when they didnt want to fight them just before they retired.
Funny how the link works for you all of a sudden after ducking it for so long, saying it doesnt work