Why didnt Calzaghe renew his visa when Tarver, Pavlik came onto the scene?

When's Tarver ever been a big money fighter? Even being the guy who finally made Roy Jones mortal didn't make him a big ppv star. He pretty much disapeared after Hopkins destroyed him anyway he only had 4 fights in almost 3 years between that loss and Calzaghe retiring.

 

like wow. three pages of obvious evidence to the contrary and no evidence to support his own argument, and bailey still believes that Froch was ducking Calzaghe. Forget the years of evidence against Bailey already. And hes still saying 'schooled you son!' whilst getting schooled himself about this fact non stop for 3 pages. Thats like bum Jeff Lacy with his face ripped off, shouting 'schooled you son!' at Calzaghe after their fight.

Is bailey perchance from an alternative universe where Froch actually did duck Calzaghe? That can be the only explanation for such blind belief in the face of 100% opposing evidence.

 

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After the removal of the false disgraceful insincere accusation's thrown by ESB's number 1 Calzaghe ass kisser, accusing Carl 'The Cobra' Froch of ducking, the question is, why didnt this fight get made, and who ducked who?

I will just lay down some facts in chronological order for you to decide and derive your own opinion.

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"I'd like to fight Calzaghe, probably next year after a couple of fights for the British title," said Froch.

"That would be an outrageous win because Calzaghe's a good fighter, a very strong fighter, he's been around a few years, and I just feel I've got exactly what you need to beat him." - Carl Froch at 13-0

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3673602.stm

At this point, Carl Froch wasn't even the British SMW champion, however he still showed desire in fighting WBO SMW champion Joe Calzaghe.

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"Froch will have to work like I have done to establish myself on the world scene," - Joe Calzaghe

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3698536.stm

After these words where Calzaghe dismissed Carl Froch, Calzaghe went on to fight:-

Kabery Salem
Mario Veit

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"Then when Ashira walked out I almost choked on my cocoa. I had to do a double take to make sure it wasn't Baby Jake Matlala.

"I have come to expect Joe to pick on easy targets,"

I believe Calzaghe knows that isn't that hard a job.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=4633&more=1

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"Why doesn't Joe get bold and call me out? Like I said before, perhaps he knows what I do: that I will smoke his boots, I will end his career.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=4633&more=1

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"Bully's don't call out the real big boys. They like to have things stacked in their favour, they want it all on their own terms. That's why when the going gets tough they run home to their daddies."

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=4633&more=1

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"I know what to do to beat Calzaghe,.......I don't think Calzaghe will fight me unless I put a meaningful title on the line but if I get one of the major belts he could not swerve me. - Carl Froch

"Carl will prove himself to be the best fighter in the country bar none. I truly believe he will knock Calzaghe out." - Fat Mick

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/5023478.stm

Froch hoped for a Calzaghe fight, when Calzaghe just beaten Jeff Lacy.

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WBO rankings at this point stood like:-

Champ: Joe Calzaghe
1. Dennis Inkin
2. Lucian Bute
3. Carl Froch

Calzaghe never fought any of the three closest ranked fighters.

"Joe says he's looking to make the most money possible from his next fight,........ Given the options open to him, that must mean fighting me. It certainly wouldn't mean someone like Inkin. - Carl Froch.

"I am a proper challenger. I am the best in the division and politics shouldn't stop us meeting. It would be an exciting battle before I

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6545105.stm

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or fight me, then we will see what kind of man he is" - Carl Froch

we all know what Joe Calzaghe did, he vacated.

"If he is a proud and strong man and a warrior, which I believe he is, he should step in the ring with me and we will put on a great British fight. - Carl Froch

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6390425.stm

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"I consider myself world class now," the Nottingham fighter added. "I am on Joe's trail at the moment and I have already said I am willing to step up to light-heavyweight.

"There are other fights out there for me - Jurgen Breahmer and Christian Sannavia - but Joe Calzaghe is the big one for me." - Carl Froch

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7085122.stm

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Calzaghe vs Hopkins, Joe was offered less something around £3.5 Million

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"My argument is not will Joe Calzaghe fight me because maybe I don't want to fight Joe Calzaghe,"

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/extra/441991-froch-says-no-go-to-joe-calzaghe#ixzz1zgEGGoiD

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"I dont think that fight will ever happen now, especially as Calzaghe's lifestyle was recently exposted......

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I really dont care if he does come out of retirement or not," - Carl Froch

http://www.***********.com/carl-froch-calzaghe-regret-his-decision-not-me--27129

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"I wanted the challenge and he didn't. End of story - Carl Froch

http://www.***********.com/carl-froch-calzaghe-regret-his-decision-not-me--27129

 

OMG. Hes brought Mario Veit, Intercontinental man, into the argument again, after being pwned repeatedly told NOT to do so. He still thinks hes the same level as a guy like Bute, undefeated in 9 defences of a full world title.

No end of hallucinations today.

 

He says Froch didnt fancy Calzaghe.

Froch isnt scared of any fighter, Froch stepped in to the Super 6 which is a far tougher challenge than Calzaghe.

 

yeeah cant believe he is still trying to defend his argument on that when it been blatantly wrong for several pages in the thread already. Anyone else would have admitted their error pages ago.


still if you'd expect anyone to try and keep the Titanic afloat with a mop and a plastic bucket, Bailey is definitely of that character who would give it 110% effort, I cant take his workrate in the face of impending failure away from him.


I might actually be able to find a friend who has Carl Froch's mobile number, then we could get Carl to ring Bailey directly and tell him the truth....but I am afraid Bailey would still deny it even after hearing it straight from Froch, hes really that delusional.

 

Not being interested = Calzaghe Didnt want it :deal

 

Benn never admitted that

 

Yes he did

 

Tell me dummy. If undefeated American LHW 14-0 Dennis Hasson called out C Dawson and Dawson said hes not interested and fought Tavoris Cloud, would you consider Dawson ducking him?
Please answer, because you think a SMW world champ due to unify with another world champ is ducking if they say they are not interested in the British champ
Froch could have signed and agreed with the promoter of the champ but as the promoter said, he didnt seem interested
Frank said in the link

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Champ: Joe Calzaghe
1. Dennis Inkin
2. Lucian Bute
3. Carl Froch

Further proves the point that Froch wasnt even #1 contender at that time.
Calzaghe fought Kessler instead of Inkin and guess who was the bigger fight and fighter? Kessler.
Bute openly said he wasnt ready for Calzaghe or Kessler at that time, but you somehow call that a Calzaghe duck? You constantly self pwn on this thread but dont mind, I can keep you around for a bit. Froch well he lost to Kessler coming off a loss.

 

No it isn't. Its about people ridiculing your obvious hatred of Calzaghe, and the fact that it bothers an insignificant nonentity such as you that he retired undefeated.:yep

 

again you duck the following post as it is clear from there Froch wanted Calzaghe:-

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"I'd like to fight Calzaghe, probably next year after a couple of fights for the British title," said Froch.

"That would be an outrageous win because Calzaghe's a good fighter, a very strong fighter, he's been around a few years, and I just feel I've got exactly what you need to beat him." - Carl Froch at 13-0

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3673602.stm

At this point, Carl Froch wasn't even the British SMW champion, however he still showed desire in fighting WBO SMW champion Joe Calzaghe.

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"Froch will have to work like I have done to establish myself on the world scene," - Joe Calzaghe

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3698536.stm

After these words where Calzaghe dismissed Carl Froch, Calzaghe went on to fight:-

Kabery Salem
Mario Veit

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"Then when Ashira walked out I almost choked on my cocoa. I had to do a double take to make sure it wasn't Baby Jake Matlala.

"I have come to expect Joe to pick on easy targets,"

I believe Calzaghe knows that isn't that hard a job.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=4633&more=1

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"Why doesn't Joe get bold and call me out? Like I said before, perhaps he knows what I do: that I will smoke his boots, I will end his career.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=4633&more=1

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"Bully's don't call out the real big boys. They like to have things stacked in their favour, they want it all on their own terms. That's why when the going gets tough they run home to their daddies."

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=4633&more=1

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"I know what to do to beat Calzaghe,.......I don't think Calzaghe will fight me unless I put a meaningful title on the line but if I get one of the major belts he could not swerve me. - Carl Froch

"Carl will prove himself to be the best fighter in the country bar none. I truly believe he will knock Calzaghe out." - Fat Mick

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/5023478.stm

Froch hoped for a Calzaghe fight, when Calzaghe just beaten Jeff Lacy.

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WBO rankings at this point stood like:-

Champ: Joe Calzaghe
1. Dennis Inkin
2. Lucian Bute
3. Carl Froch

Calzaghe never fought any of the three closest ranked fighters.

"Joe says he's looking to make the most money possible from his next fight,... Given the options open to him, that must mean fighting me. It certainly wouldn't mean someone like Inkin. - Carl Froch.

"I am a proper challenger. I am the best in the division and politics shouldn't stop us meeting. It would be an exciting battle before I

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." - Froch

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6545105.stm

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"Soon he will have no choice but to

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or fight me, then we will see what kind of man he is" - Carl Froch

we all know what Joe Calzaghe did, he vacated.

"If he is a proud and strong man and a warrior, which I believe he is, he should step in the ring with me and we will put on a great British fight. - Carl Froch

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6390425.stm

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"I consider myself world class now," the Nottingham fighter added. "I am on Joe's trail at the moment and I have already said I am willing to step up to light-heavyweight.

"There are other fights out there for me - Jurgen Breahmer and Christian Sannavia - but Joe Calzaghe is the big one for me." - Carl Froch

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7085122.stm

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Calzaghe vs Hopkins, Joe was offered less something around £3.5 Million

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"My argument is not will Joe Calzaghe fight me because maybe I don't want to fight Joe Calzaghe,"

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/extra/441991-froch-says-no-go-to-joe-calzaghe#ixzz1zgEGGoiD

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"I dont think that fight will ever happen now, especially as Calzaghe's lifestyle was recently exposted......

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I really dont care if he does come out of retirement or not," - Carl Froch

http://www.***********.com/carl-froch-calzaghe-regret-his-decision-not-me--27129

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"I wanted the challenge and he didn't. End of story - Carl Froch

http://www.***********.com/carl-froch-calzaghe-regret-his-decision-not-me--27129

The question is not about Calzaghe ducking Froch. The lesson here for you is:-

Froch wanted Calzaghe, Calzaghe didnt

I have been a man and answered all your posts, but you have continually ducked the above post and admitted to ducking it.

Froch could, would should..........who gives a **** about what promoter he needed to sign to. Froch wanted Calzaghe, and worked towards becoming #1 challenger. Calzaghe didnt want Froch. You have admitted it but remain silent.

You have tried to duck the rebuttal to this, Warrren says Froch didnt fancy it yet the same date as the article there is video evidence that Froch did fancy Calzaghe?

So obviously this The Sun article, is to be rejected as Froch is the more credible source.

Froch was the best of the lot, anyone with boxing knowledge can see that maybe that is why Calzaghe avoided him.

That doesn't mean Froch didnt want Calzaghe as you have claimed. Just admit Froch wanted Calzaghe.

Also, we know from Joe Calzaghe's shameful title defences that you dont have to be the #1 contender to get a shot at Calzaghe. From Chris Eubank to Mikkel Kessler you would find many disgraceful title defences where Froch is the superior opponent.

Had Calzaghe beaten Froch, Froch would have been Calzaghe's 2nd best title defence.

How does that disprove the facts that Froch wanted Calzaghe but Calzaghe didnt.

Be a man and admit:-

Froch wanted Calzaghe, but Calzaghe didnt fancy Froch. Calzaghe admits he didnt want to give Froch a payday, Calzaghe didnt want it.

 

oi bailey, does this sound like a person ducking Roy Jones Jr.

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Benn says he would make RJJ his last fight, he wont care about boxing and would just do a war for 12 rounds. He also says he dont care about winning, or losing. or draw.

Fact 2: Benn wanted Roy Jones Jr

 

It doesnt sound like a person ducking at all.
Im a massive Benn fan. Unlike you I did watch his career as it happend.
It was after Benn retired that he said he didnt really want it, but felt he had to talk it up. Either way I dont care.
Anyhow, talking of ducking do answer the questions would you answer the questions son.

If undefeated American LHW 14-0 Dennis Hasson called out C Dawson and Dawson said hes not interested and fought Tavoris Cloud, would you consider Dawson ducking him?

Try and answer

Please answer, because you think a SMW world champ due to unify with another world champ is ducking if they say they are not interested in the British champ who was, what did you say 13-0

What was Froch doing to make the fight because he didnt push it by fighting Bute above him at the time and didnt fight Inkin who beat him as an amateur.
So Froch didnt fight the #1 or #2 contender and in fact at that time refused Bute



Froch could have signed and agreed with the promoter of the champ but as the promoter said, he didnt seem interested
Frank said in the link

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Come on give us a laugh and answer.

Lets keep the posts shorter because I admit I am only bothering with the shorter ones rather than the long one where you keep going on about a 13-0 British champ.
Still thats not uncommon with you when earlier in this thread you said 12-0 Cleverly was a more dangerous fight than Jones atsch