Could Ali Get Away With This Against Wlad?

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  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Even the most ******ed Wlad haters have to admit that Ali would have to work the very best of his magic to eek out a win against a top-conditioned Wlad. Not only Ali, every HW fighter in history would have to bring his A game and then some.
     
  2. tezel8764

    tezel8764 Boxing Junkie banned

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    I chose to make Gif's of Bugner due to the Height/Weight/Reach similarities to Wlad, the only other of Ali's opponents that are around the 6'4-6'7 range are Ernie Terrell. I think Ali is one of few Heavyweights I feel comfortable in suggesting he can outbox/outwork Wlad over 12 rounds, Wlad's chin is suspect?, Ali's is proven over many fights (even post-exile '75) against powerful punchers (Foreman, Lyle, Shavers,). But that does'nt mean he will completely KO Wlad in the first round. I think he can pull off some of these moves, he will take a lot of punches from Wladimir, but he has proven over time he can.
     
  3. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali would destroy Wlad. WTF are people smoking? This wouldn't even be close
     
  4. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    No he wouldn't. Joe Bugner was no Wlad in power or pedigree but Ali couldn't destroy him and he had two goes at it. Best for Ali is a UD imo.
     
  5. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    Ali was waay past prime when he fought Bugner. Prime Ali would of given Wlad fits.
     
  6. PowerHoock

    PowerHoock Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali looked good against 6'0-6'3, 190-210 pound fighters.

    he suffered against a 6'3, 220, 'big'(small by todays standards) George Foreman.

    he never faced an athletic freak fighter like Wladimir, a fighter who is as skilled as Wladimir, or a fighter who who's smart enough to resist his shenanigans outside the ring.
     
  7. borsuk

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    :good

    looks like boxing began in the 1990s for some
     
  8. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    Ali was waaay past prime by the time he fought Foreman. He no longer had to legs to move constantly for 15 rounds, which is why he spent so much time against the ropes
    And the same can be said for Wlad, who never faced a fighter with the jab, handspeed and footwork of a prime Ali
     
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    Zapp Brannigan Vid... Full Member

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    Exactly :lol:
     
  11. borsuk

    borsuk ~:~:~:~:~:~ Full Member

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    a better question is whether vlad would earn a shot in the era of frazier, norton, foreman, shavers, ellis etc. if journeymen ilke cory sanders and ross puritty could flatten him, and a plodder like sam peter could drop him three times then a prime foreman and frazier would walk all over him, and shavers would be taking his head home in a bucket.
     
  12. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A mechanical guy like Wlad would be figured out in a couple of rounds and then taken apart by Ali.
     
  13. leaduppercut

    leaduppercut Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wladimir is too careful to get his jab countered... how often do you see that?
     
  14. piscator

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    Not me:nono:lol:. I started watching in the '50's.

    Wlad vs. Ali? My head says Ali gets his head knocked off, even in his prime. Wlad is too big, too skilled, too fast, too focused.

    But my heart says Ali would figure out a way, pull a rabbit out of the hat, like he did with Foreman in Kinshasha. Ali was magic.

    Wlad and Ali? Probably the two best heavyweights ever.
     
  15. Luigi

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    Wlad and Ali should not be in the same sentence together. Ali is leagues better than Wlad.