With Donaire's lackluster win...

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  1. J_Grizzy

    J_Grizzy Active Member Full Member

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    Isn't it clear that Abner Mares, who still doesn't get as much respect as he should, is the best and most well rounded fighter at 122? Rigondeaux has yet to really have a signature win in his career, and Donaire is dynamic but might be more flawed than both Rigo and Mares. Watching the fight last night, I was feeling that Mares would of had Mathebula so diminished by his body punching and combinations that he would have dominated him for the full 12. Mares is the most complete fighter at 122, after Nishioka and should have more consideration from a P4P perspective than he has now.
     
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  2. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Donaire would murder Mares. Rigo would murder him worse. Moreno and Nishioka would both murder him somewhere in between.
     
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  3. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have Mares at about number 12 on my P4P list.

    Donaire at 9.

    Nonito's limitations show, as he moves up in weight.
     
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  4. Sir Will Wigan

    Sir Will Wigan HLF: A Real "Fightin' Man" Full Member

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    I'd rate that group as follows:
    1. Moreno
    2. Rigo
    3. Nishioka
    4. Mares
    5. Donaire

    But, it's a real tough call between #1 and #2. I don't think much of Donaire.
     
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  5. exodus

    exodus Active Member Full Member

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    Donaire loses to Nishioka, Rigondeaux, Moreno and Mares.

    The first two without a doubt.
     
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  6. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    "Lackluster win" against a title holder who fought on the back-foot for 12 rounds.

    Donaire is very much hittable and has always been that way. He's willing to take chances to try end the fight with one punch.

    I hope TR and GB can get it together to make Donaire-Mare. It's one of the biggest fights that can be made in boxing, IMO.
     
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  7. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    Nishioka vs Donaire would be awesome.

    I think Donaire beats Rigo, and Mares. All of which would probably be good fights.
     
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  8. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If there was a low blow competition, Mares would indeed be number one on the P4P list.
     
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  9. J_Grizzy

    J_Grizzy Active Member Full Member

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    Mares has just shown more to me as a fighter than any of the guys at 122 right now. The guy is too tough and fearless for me to ever count him out. I believe he'd be find a way to win against a Donaire or Rigondeaux.
     
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  10. Sir Will Wigan

    Sir Will Wigan HLF: A Real "Fightin' Man" Full Member

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    Moreno wins by stoppage
    Rigo wins by stoppage
    Nishioka wins by UD
    Mares wins by UD
     
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  11. vengeex

    vengeex Boxing Junkie banned

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    I rated them according to what they actually accomplished so far:

    1. DONAIRE
    - Montiel
    - Darchinyan
    - Vazquez Jr.
    - Mthalane
    - Mathebula
    - Omar Narvaez
    - Hernan Marquez

    2. MARES
    - Agbeko
    - Darchinyan
    - Yonnhy Perez
    - Eric Morel

    3. MORENO
    - Cermeno
    - Darchinyan
    - Tomas Rojas

    4. RIGONDEAUX
    - Cordoba
    - Rico Ramos
    - Teon Kennedy

    :D:D
     
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  12. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    Hopefully we'll see at least one of those fight go down.
     
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  13. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What about Toshiaki Nishioka ring rated number 1 of the division?
     
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  14. Prince.

    Prince. 24/7 365 Full Member

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    I mean before the results were announced last night Nonito started complaining about his legs. Then when he won the 'decision' he's all happy again. This guy doesn't want to dominate each division. It seem's like he just wants to collect belts so that he can beat Manny's record. The funny thing is Nonito's isn't that good as people make him out to be.
     
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  15. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member banned

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    It was so lackluster..

    mathebula lost a wisdom tooth.

    A wisdom tooth? You know you need surgery to get those out? Nobody gets a wisdom tooth punched out..
     
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