With how great Wladimir is looking. How many former ATGS can win h2h? Poll

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  1. FelixTrinidad

    FelixTrinidad Boxing Addict banned

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    Yes, I know the current HW Division is ****ing garbage.

    Thompson is like 50 and slow as a turtle, but despite me hating on the Kbros before.

    I have become a HUGE FAN now. Wladimir looked amazing with his 4 punches a round, but still efficient.

    So no trolling, just bump and vote in the poll.

    How many Former ATG'S will be a FAVORITE in a H2H Series against Current Wladimir?


    1- If you don't think Prime Lewis can beat current Wladimir, go **** yourselves in the ******* and die.


    So for me, that's a given.

    But everyone else is fair game.

    I think Prime Lewis, Prime Tyson, will be favorites against Wladimir.

    No One Else. So for me the answer is 2
     
  2. FelixTrinidad

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    Actaully

    now that I stopped hugging Wlad's nuts.


    I realized it could be more then 2.

    Other then Prime Lewis and Prime Tyson


    THESE GUYS COULD BEAT HIM. Still will be under dogs

    I think Prime Holmes could beat him, Prime 70's FOreman
    prime Ali, Prime Holyfield and maybe Prime Bowe.
     
  3. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Spot on Felix. :good
     
  4. dazl1212

    dazl1212 kafir and proud Full Member

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    I think all the people you have listed would have a good chance of beating him. Whether they would though I'm not sure.
     
  5. FelixTrinidad

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    If it's over a 50% chance, they are a favorite. Slight favorite, high favorite, still a favorite.

    Prime Bowe (of the Holyfield Fights) should be 50-50.
     
  6. forreal

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    Marciano
    Dempsey
    Tyson
    Louis
    Ali
    Holmes
    Bowe
    Holyfield
    Lewis
    Liston
    Foreman
    Frazier

    All beats him
     
  7. suckeggs

    suckeggs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I went for 10+ simply because of his chin and the fact he has no inside game at all would always make him suspect against the big hitters.

    S'pose a big part of it would also come down to location a what the Ref lets Wlad get away with. i'd favour Wlad to get beat up by a prime Frazier if the ref were a good one for instance. If it's one of his usual German refs who let him grab and lean any time a fighter gets close Wlad would outbox him or possibly stop him late.

    Don't get me wrong, Wlad is a very good boxer but he lacks heart, can't fight, has no inside game and has a sucseptible chin so will always be at risk of being stopped by many of the greats
     
  8. The Predator

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    Yes, I agree with this list. Ithink there are more that could beat him. just finf a boxer that will actually box him and at least try to throw some punches and he´s out. He is so overrated just because the division is so poor.
    They are good sportsmen but very limited as boxers. Even Primo Carnera could hav e had a chance beating them.
     
  9. Champion

    Champion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl

    Hello Brittard
     
  10. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Imo guys who would beat him:
    Lewis
    Tyson

    Guys who could beat him:
    Vitali
    Ali
    Holmes
    Foreman
    Bonecrusher smith
    Liston
    Holyfield
     
  11. Ali_

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    How do you know whether or not you DKSAB? If you didn't vote 10+ in the poll above. Thats how. I'm sorry OP but if you think Wladimir is looking great..... DKSAB brah..

    :patsch Bro. You are suspect.

    Damn right they do. Anyone who isn't intimidated by Wlad's size and read his right beats Wlad bloodier than a Red Cross Blood drive held outside a slaughterhouse.

    ...Lol...I realize you are pandering to peoples sensitivities. You can't say "Wlad is a very good boxer.." and then go onto say "he lacks heart," and "can't fight" and "has no inside game " and " has a susceptible chin"... YOU CANT SAY ALL OF THAT after saying "Wlad is a very good boxer.." and actually mean "Wlad is a very good boxer"... :-( Let me set the record straight in this thread...

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    Wlad can't box for ****. Anyone who pretends he can DKSAB. Period.

    I can't believe anyone is pretending this guy is an ATG. He is a joke. The more I watch his fights. The more I SMH. His corner between rounds sounds like an amateur corner with Manny saying the same thing over and over like Wlad is a ****** or something. "The jab! The jab! The jab!" The Jab" - The jab!" The-- jab! - The jab!" Manny comes between the ropes at the end of a round saying "The jab!" and jumps out of the ropes saying "The jab!" The damn microphone is moving away and the last thing you catch is Manny saying "The jab! The jab! The jab" I'm hardly even exaggerating. ("The jab!")

    Ali doesn't need to be in his prime to beat this clown, neither does Frazier..neither does Lennox, neither does Holyfield, hell neither does Tyson. Its ridiculous. Its pathetic. Its utterly unbelievable.

    Stop acting like this guy can fight, he cant. The more you watch this guys fight the more shameful it becomes. He can't jab. I repeat. The man can't jab. He can not jab for ****, he doesn't jab because he can't. Its like he's never had any amateur fights at all. He can't hook. He cant throw an uppercut. What can he do?
    One........... One. .. One.. Two! TWO!....one.....t....t.....o.o..o.one.....one..TWO!.....................................................................TWO!:blood

    And people think this guy can beat Ali? Frazier? Norton? Hell, Foreman? Frazier is Wlad's worst nightmare. Wlad can't move if he was on a treadmill that was on a escalator, that was on ferris-wheel..and this clown is suppose to beat the GOAT or any ATG?

    I can't get over it. Did Thompson throw one hook? I have never seen a southpaw...not throw any meaningful hooks whatsoever against a conventional fighter.....Did no one else notice this? A southpaw..without a left hook? Wlad was practically begging for it all night. :-(

    Wlad-fans who think this guy is an ATG are of the silliest pedigree.

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    I got nothing against Wladimir personally I like his personality and he is actual cool to listen to, but this guy is no boxing genius, he isn't an ATG and his competition is disgraceful.

    Keeping it real.
     
  12. dazl1212

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    I feel this is the most realistic post here so far. Although I'd probably have Holmes as a very slight favourite.
    I think if Tyson doesn't get him out of there in 4 rounds which I'd lean towards him doing I think Wlad stops him.
     
  13. FelixTrinidad

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    damn I forgot about Prime Vitali...


    But ya, only Tyson and Lewis imo is a strong favorite.
     
  14. Kissan

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    Ok, german ref? Like Sam Williams? Pabon, Rodriguez, Byrd, Cotton, Weeks, Randy Neumann or Jay Nady? I honestly think that there was no fight of Wladimir refereed by a german ref since 1998.

    Also: How does he lack heart? When he got up three times against Peter? His losses against Brewster or Sanders? Where he got up everytime he went down? Also during the time when he had his losses and everybody, including his BROTHER, suggested to call it quits, but he kept fighting, becoming one of the most dominant boxing champions of all time?

    Back to topic: I think, Tyson and Lewis definately have Wlads number. Their styles are all wrong for him. Those are the only 2 I clearly favor against Wladimir. Ali, prime Bowe, Frazier would be 50/50. The other boxing greats, including Vitali, get beaten most of the times and I favor Wlad against them.
    I deliberately excluded the oldtimers like Dempsey, Marciano, Louis etc because including them would be ******ed, they would get humiliated.
     
  15. DanishFightfan

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    Guys that beats him:

    Tyson
    Vitali
    Lewis

    Guys that may beat him:
    Ali
    Foreman

    On the fence:
    Holmes

    Guys he may beat:
    Frazier
    Liston
    Bowe
    Holyfield

    Guys he beats:
    Patterson
    Marciano
    Dempsey
    Louis
    Johansson

    I know that all of those aren't ATG HWs, just some former HW champs off the top of my head..