Lennox Lewis (in his last pro fight) vs. Wladimir (now)

If Wladimir landed his right hand flush, I expect Lewis would be KO'd too.


Lennox Lewis is the one here with the record of being stopped twice by single right hands.
Rahman iced him with one punch. A clean 10-count KO.

Wladimir has gone on a longer run without getting stopped than Lewis did between the McCall and Rahman fights.

 

I don't see it being fought on the outside to be honest.

When Lewis finds himself up against somebody who he does not have the usual physical advantages over, he turns it into a brawl.

Now Wlad has a verry serious weakness, which he is fortunate that there is nobody around with the tools to exploit.

He lacks inside game.

Against somebody who can impose himself like Lewis, that just won't work.

 

I disgaree. He is superbly defensive on the inside. That's his inside game.


I think he's a lot stronger than a guy like Akinwande. I imagine he's almost as strong as Lewis. He'd tie Lewis up.
Let's not pretend Lewis was much of an infighter either.


Wladimir would pose a far greater challenge to Lewis than most here are willing to give him credit for.
Personally, I see them as equals, with Wladimir likely to surpass Lewis as an ATG if he wins another two or three fights.

 

I agree with you that Wlad is a better outboxer, better jab and movement. I disagree he'd KO even this LEwis because he's just too cautious.

In any fight I'd expect Wlad to land more jabs but for Lennox to land more lead rights and left hooks. His powerpunches are much more clinical. Wlad is too cautious in that sense

Under pressure Wlad is not good. He can't fight backing up. Brewster is the ultimate example of him not liking pressure. But then there's Haye, When Haye hit him and came forward he looked really uncomfortable and just wanted to hug and wrestle his way to safety. That's why Wlad isn't counter punching, he panics too much

If Wlad beats old LEwis it would be decision, but Lennox stands a good chance of winning by KO, even 37yo Lewis

Good points again but Wlad has had spindly weak legs in the past, although I haven't seen them recently. Lennox was considered by everyone who fought him incredibly strong

Lennox did not like in fighting but in the clinches he had the uppercut, hitting and holding and rabbit punching, to make it a rough rough night. Lennox would be more about timing his range to get off bombs than fighting an in-fight but he would look to walk Wlad down

 

Lewis had a vicious uppercut, and that is the punch that is going to win him this fight, because ultimately Wlad will have no effective answer for it.

 

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I can break apart your piece of **** post which you probably took hours to compose , but I'm not gonna even insult the intelligence of the smarter posters on here by dissecting what they all know is a ******ed post.



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The only difference between you and a full blown Klittard

is they just spam made up facts and gifs

you attempt to look intelligent.


You are judging Wlad's abilities base on the D- Opposition that he managed to jab and knock out . If it was a prime Lewis in today's era instead of Wladimir, he will look like some kind of Demi God.

 

Lewis was able to walk down Vitali because he could take his best shots and keep the pressure coming. Lewis walked through everything Vitali had, too get the few shots he needed on the inside to sescure the win.

Wlad is far more more accurate than his brother and appears to have more concussive power.

Wlad at this stage has a more suffocating clinch than the Vitali who fought Lewis. Even now, Vitali still lets fighters free their arms free and pound at his body or take free shots at his head.

I just don't see Lewis having the same type of success as he did against Vitali. Lewis and Steward(which is very surreal and weird) would have to come up with a more measured attack against Wlad, or he would get knocked out early. Banking on his durability to swarm Wlad and force the fight, not going to be an option for him. He'll have to show more respect for Wlad's power.

"Lennox Lewis has no respect for Vitali's power"-Foreman as Lewis marches through yet another Vitali combination.

 

Lewis was almost exactly the same in that regard too - at least when he was fighting well.

When Holyfield came forward with any sort of pace or intensity (rare by 1999), he had Lewis flustered.
Lewis hugged his way through many a fight, and was at pains to slow down any sort of fast pace against some of his better opponents.
I've seen Lewis backed up and holding on against guys who were not good at all.

Wlad dominated Haye from start to finish. Haye hit him hard about once, and you really have to work at it to convince yourself that Wlad was in any sort of trouble. Sure, he clinched his way out of trouble. And he did so easily, and comfortably. Muhammad Ali would have clinched Haye too, and Larry Holmes would have been making his 'uncomfortable' facial expression. Lewis would have clinched and held on, no doubt. I think you are reading a little bit too much in to it.

He's stand a good chance of walking into something nasty.
Especially the 2003 Lewis. He walked straight in to Vitali's punches. I think today's Wlad throws straighter, more accurate, harder punches.

 

Thanks for sharing.

 

You're vastly stretching now, Lennox did play with his food but nowhere near as tentative as Wlad. And as for 'Lewis hugged his way through many a fight' and as for 'I've seen Lewis backed up and holding on against guys who were not good at all.' Really when? And did he produce a KO shortly after?

Conversely to your argument Lennox actually often looked to walk opponents and walk through their punches, he wanted to exchange. Holyfield's workrate and pressure at times may have given him a few problems, but Holyfield's an ATG and Lewis fought smaller men differently to the big men who he looked to pounce on - Mike Grant, Golota, Vitali, Akinwande etc

As for 'walking into something nasty', how many instances of Wlad counter punching can you pull up? I can't think of any. When does Wlad look comfortable on the back foot? Again I can't think of any

 

Just like Vitali, Wlad wouldn't need to counter punch to find Lews as he walks in.

Lewis put on pressure but its not like it was relentless Frazier or Marciano pressure. He walked straight in with his hands up, usally looking to hold and hit or bomb one right hand at a time. Hard to do that with powerful jabs and right hands beating you to the punch. Against Vitali, Lewis could walk through that, not sure that is happening against Wlad.

 

I think the cut hampered the win for Vitali and I still believe Vitali had the best of that fight, Lennox held and hit and was not warned but LennoX was a bit of a rough houser. Vlad would be extremely cautious in the early rounds and very defensive. He would start getting the right in around the 8th-9th rounds and a big right hand would first stagger Lennox then drop Lennox for the count.

This would always be a dangerous fight for Vlad but with this fight plan I think the present version of Vlad had a good chance to KO any version of Lennox....A prime Lennox also had the style to stop Vlad but I think Vlad is a better technical fighter while Lennox would go for it...but I am in the opinion that Vlad does not have a bad chin just lacked the toughness early in his career while Lennox went out cold from 2 one punch KO's so its really a toss-up prime for prime

 

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Watch him against Bruno, Ray Mercer, Lionel Butler, McCall (2nd fight), Tua. These are some of his best fights.
The Vitali fight itself was a bit of a wrestling match.

Yes, Wlad is even more extreme case of caution but let's not pretend Lewis wasn't in the same mold.

Wlad's been clearly winning all these fights that he gets critcised for anyway.

Most of those guys were not in the same category as Wlad.
It's easy to pounce on guys like Grant and Golota who have very limited defensive ability.

Lewis went life-and-death with Vitali who didn't punch as hard as Wlad.
He was rocked badly by a guy a basic as Shannon Briggs, in his prime, in one of his best ever fights.

Like i said, when he was boxing well, he was boxing cautious. When he "looked to walk through their punches" he risked getting KO'd.
You want to put him in with Wlad and have him walk through punches ?
No, I'd prefer to bet on the cautious Lewis.

Wlad doesn't need to 'counter-punch'. Lewis was wide open against Vitali (and some others).

I don't assume Wlad goes on the back foot. He controls distance well.
I don't assume Lewis goes into some sort of come-forward marauder role with any success either.
Wlad's a lot better than some of these big mooses that Lewis is credited with beating.
The likes of Grant and Golota etc. are more on a par with the 'tomato cans' Wlad gets ripped for beating.

 

LL knocks Wladmir the **** out.

Lewis was superior to Wlad in every department