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Rigondeaux is so overrated in the pros right now its ridiculous

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by _Duran_, Jul 8, 2012.

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TheJuggernaut said: ↑

Pointing out someones vcash total is the last vestage of an idiot with nothing to say.

What else can I expect from someone who takes their name and catchphrase from a crackhead

No contradiction at all. I said he is tenative on offense. We both acknowledge that he throws very little, but when he does, hes very accurate. I said this more than once. He seems content with landing a smaller amount of punches, so long as he doesnt get hit back (points management). So I dont see where the contradiction. I didnt say he fights amaturish (like wily or untrained), I meant he fights like hes keeping track of every point/punch landed, and just focusing on outscoring on a points basis.

Not that theres anything wrong with Rigos style, thats not what im saying. What I am saying, is that people saying stupid **** like "Donaire would have no choice but to be put to sleep" makes no sense being as though Rigo is not a ko artist. IF Rigo beats Donaire it would most likely be by points win, in a fairly slow fight. As you acknowledge Rigo is a hit and not get hit accurate puncher. He doesnt focus on power, nor is he a devistating hitter. So all this "Rigo would definitely ko donaire" and "Rigo would have ko'd Mathebula in 2" talk is stupid, because thats not the kind of fighter Rigo is
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None of that has anything to do with Donaire acting like he's ducking Rigo, avoiding him at the very least. Donaire doesn't mention Rigo at all as a possible opponent. Why not? Was Mathebula a bigger name? Or was he an easy fight?

Mares needs to take on Rigo as well, but at least he just fought in the tournament. Nishioka and Moreno needs to move up and all these guys need to start fighting each other. This **** better get done by late this year or early next year.

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TheJuggernaut said: ↑

Pointing out someones vcash total is the last vestage of an idiot with nothing to say.

What else can I expect from someone who takes their name and catchphrase from a crackhead

No contradiction at all. I said he is tenative on offense. We both acknowledge that he throws very little, but when he does, hes very accurate. I said this more than once. He seems content with landing a smaller amount of punches, so long as he doesnt get hit back (points management). So I dont see where the contradiction. I didnt say he fights amaturish (like wily or untrained), I meant he fights like hes keeping track of every point/punch landed, and just focusing on outscoring on a points basis.

Not that theres anything wrong with Rigos style, thats not what im saying. What I am saying, is that people saying stupid **** like "Donaire would have no choice but to be put to sleep" makes no sense being as though Rigo is not a ko artist. IF Rigo beats Donaire it would most likely be by points win, in a fairly slow fight. As you acknowledge Rigo is a hit and not get hit accurate puncher. He doesnt focus on power, nor is he a devistating hitter. So all this "Rigo would definitely ko donaire" and "Rigo would have ko'd Mathebula in 2" talk is stupid, because thats not the kind of fighter Rigo is
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I don't like to speculate of how and in what rd Rigo wins against Nonito.
The way i see it is simple: they are the 2 more exciting fighters at 122,under the same promoter,fans want the fight and one of them its ready for war.The other one says he isn't interested.
i know Nonito is lately being tagged too much and his defense looks vulnerable.
his power is still there but he's abandoned his boxing abilities and going swinging for the fences.Mathebula looks horrible on his feet, i mean horrible.And Nonito was just headhunter all night.Unless he becomes more cautious,against Rigo he'll pay for those mistakes.

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The guy is a legit fighter and the only flaws he has are a suspect Chin and his amateur habit of not aggressively seeking the KO when it is in within obvious reach. If you don't think that he's a match for anybody at SBW or FW you are delusional.

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I hope this Donaire - Rigondeaux rivalry doesn't end up being another virtual war like with *****s and *******s.

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reed_man02 said: ↑

None of that has anything to do with Donaire acting like he's ducking Rigo, avoiding him at the very least. Donaire doesn't mention Rigo at all as a possible opponent. Why not? Was Mathebula a bigger name? Or was he an easy fight?

Mares needs to take on Rigo as well, but at least he just fought in the tournament. Nishioka and Moreno needs to move up and all these guys need to start fighting each other. This **** better get done by late this year or early next year.
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I agree man, I think this is a fight Nonito should take just because he looks like a ***** for not taking it. Despite the fact that Rigo really hasnt done anything at the pro level yet

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I don't like to speculate of how and in what rd Rigo wins against Nonito.
The way i see it is simple: they are the 2 more exciting fighters at 122,under the same promoter,fans want the fight and one of them its ready for war.The other one says he isn't interested.
i know Nonito is lately being tagged too much and his defense looks vulnerable.
his power is still there but he's abandoned his boxing abilities and going swinging for the fences.Mathebula looks horrible on his feet, i mean horrible.And Nonito was just headhunter all night.Unless he becomes more cautious,against Rigo he'll pay for those mistakes.
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I agree dude, especially with Nonito's overzealous style. he needs to let the ko develop naturally, he has massive power. Just let it come to you like it came against Vic. He seems like he has it in his mind that he can knock anyone out, so he sacrifices everything else in favor of the ko. If he is able to calm himself and focus on polish, allowing the ko to come with the time is right he would be a untouchable.

As Far as Rigo and this fight goes, theres no doubt the guy is sharp as **** and can fight. This fight needs to happen. All im saying is that people should wait to see him in the ring with someone world class like Donaire before we start calling him the second coming. He really didnt fight anyone on that level so we really dont know how he would handle someone like Nonito coming at him that aggressively with his combination of speed and power.

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TheJuggernaut said: ↑

Pointing out someones vcash total is the last vestage of an idiot with nothing to say.

What else can I expect from someone who takes their name and catchphrase from a crackhead

No contradiction at all. I said he is tenative on offense. We both acknowledge that he throws very little, but when he does, hes very accurate. I said this more than once. He seems content with landing a smaller amount of punches, so long as he doesnt get hit back (points management). So I dont see where the contradiction. I didnt say he fights amaturish (like wily or untrained), I meant he fights like hes keeping track of every point/punch landed, and just focusing on outscoring on a points basis.

Not that theres anything wrong with Rigos style, thats not what im saying. What I am saying, is that people saying stupid **** like "Donaire would have no choice but to be put to sleep" makes no sense being as though Rigo is not a ko artist. IF Rigo beats Donaire it would most likely be by points win, in a fairly slow fight. As you acknowledge Rigo is a hit and not get hit accurate puncher. He doesnt focus on power, nor is he a devistating hitter. So all this "Rigo would definitely ko donaire" and "Rigo would have ko'd Mathebula in 2" talk is stupid, because thats not the kind of fighter Rigo is
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What are you talking about? I agree the hype for Rigo has grown a bit quickly, he went from underrated after the Cordoba fight to maybe a bit overrated after his last couple but Rigo IS a devastating puncher. Just because he's a counter puncher who doesn't throw many punches doesn't mean he's not a knockout artist. Even in the amateurs he was putting guys to sleep, he is a tremendous puncher especially with the left to the body. He does focus on power, when do you see him throw half hearted punches? He feints and then throws 100% when he finds a spot.

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Blah Blah Blah.

Cordoba deserves a rematch with this Rigo cyclist.

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Cletis VanDamme said: ↑

I hope this Donaire - Rigondeaux rivalry doesn't end up being another virtual war like with *****s and *******s.
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it has begun.

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The guy is a legit fighter and the only flaws he has are a suspect Chin and his amateur habit of not aggressively seeking the KO when it is in within obvious reach. If you don't think that he's a match for anybody at SBW or FW you are delusional.
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Riglasseaux knocked down by a jab....

Im just saying that people shouldnt roll out the red messiah carpet until he steps that competition up

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lot of threads going around about this "nobody"...

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why are people mad because Donaire been lookin like **** lately, im a fan of his but if you think he can beat Rigo your delusional you think them wild uppercuts gonna hit Rigondeaux, some fighters are special you can see it as soon as they step in the ring, i think Rigo gonna be undefeated til he retires the guy has perfected his lil style of takin half steps back and timin the counter, people say about steppin up his competition but his style is so awkward he will just do the same thing to everyone even Donaire, he will have Nonito missin all night and makin him look silly, the Pac fans always hatin on black people lol their hurt

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why are people mad because Donaire been lookin like **** lately, im a fan of his but if you think he can beat Rigo your delusional you think them wild uppercuts gonna hit Rigondeaux, some fighters are special you can see it as soon as they step in the ring, i think Rigo gonna be undefeated til he retires the guy has perfected his lil style of takin half steps back and timin the counter, people say about steppin up his competition but his style is so awkward he will just do the same thing to everyone even Donaire, he will have Nonito missin all night and makin him look silly, the Pac fans always hatin on black people lol their hurt
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Your lack of punctuation marks and stupid opinions just gave everybody aids. How about ****ing off now

And Rigo is not black you moron

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TheJuggernaut said: ↑

Your lack of punctuation marks and stupid opinions just gave everybody aids. How about ****ing off now

And Rigo is not black you moron
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lack of punctuation you ******, see your one of the people that hate because your probably some fat pub ****, look at your reply thats pure anger right there, go take your depression out by killin yourself instead of comin with some bull**** reply

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