James J Jeffries

Please produce these quotes. So Jeffries lifted the 5'8" ,32lbs lighter Sharkey of his feet! Wow!!!
Johnson walked the 19lbs heavier Jeffries backwards to his own corner ,leaned over the ropes and said to Jim Corbett "where do you want me to put him"?
Jack Dempsey picked up the 24lbs heavier unconscious Firpo like he was a rag doll.


Get real! And stop with the hero worship,its unseemly in a man in his 30's.

 

Jeffries is one of the few heavy champs I totally dislike. My impression of him is being a bitter, humorless, unimaginative, racist (by his day's standards) *****.

However, I do not let this impression color my appreciation of his fistic abilities.

 

Johnson compounded the race issue that was around anyway.

Jefferies in most of the public and media eyes saw him as 'saving the race', of course the most famous quote being that of the vaunted author Jack London, "Jim Jeffries must emerge from his alfalfa farm and remove the golden smile from Jack Johnson's face,"

Public and media pressure plus Tex Rickard offering 100,000 dollars as purse got him back in training for the Johnson fight, dropping from 300 pounds to 227 at fight weigh in.

In his day Jefferies was the king of the ring, but as they say every dog has its day, Big Jims day was in the past when he fought Johnson.

Jefferies was a remarkable athlete not only being strong but also had a athletics capability.

Jefferies as Champion had a style that worked for him so had no reason to change it.

 

Nor I, I doubt very much that I would have much empathy with Mr John Arthur Johnson , but that should not colour my opinion of his pugilistic abilities should it.

 

At least Mr. Johnson proved to be the ballsiest athlete of the 20th century, had a sense of humor, innate intelligence and offered good quotes.

 

Many boxing people seem to agree with you. Personally, I think he was just a pathological narcissist who would take attention any way he could get it. Sort of like a more sophisticated Dennis Rodman.

He also liked to beat up on women (Etta Dureya anyone?). What did Jeffries do that compares to that?

 

Oh wait! That's right....she "fell from a streetcar" atsch

 

Not satisfied with using the ten-dollar words as Ernest Miller H ,would call them.
Now you are inventing your own.
Hubris will be your downfall.:nono

 

James J. Jeffires learning the "art-of-the-slip-and-slide" from 'Gentleman Jim'

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What, an elite level entertainer or athlete being a narcissistic, me-first sort?

I've never heard of such a thing?

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Jim Corbett was taken into custody for twice hitting women.
Spat in Fitzsimmons face.

Corbett consorted openly with prostitutes

Sullivan once was arraigned for beating a woman up.John L had a long term relationship with a prostitute


Ray Robinson caused his wife to miscarry at least once through him beating her.


Diego Corralles was convicted of wife beating,and a pregnant wife at that.
PBF anyone?
Any of these guys face anywhere near the public pressure that Johnson faced every day of his life?

Any of them have someone take a shot at them , send them multiple death threats?

Any of them called hyena, skunk, damned n****r, ****** ,the ape with the yellow streak , and other choice epiphets on a daily basis?


Any of them told who they could and could not have sex with?
Any of them have to wait outside while his manager made a deal for his next fight, as Johnson had to do at the NSC in Convent Garden?

Have every paper in the US ,castigating their every movement and innocuous remark?

Any of them have to stay in 3rd rate dumps because of their colour?

Any of them have to change costumes in the janitors cellar when they were touring?

Any of them fight in battle royals with up to a dozen other blacks, winner take all?

Any of them have to fight grown men when they were teenagers ,and half starved?

Any of them have men of their race lynched just because they beat a man of another colour?

Any of them framed for a crime they did not commit ?

Have to leave the country , live in exile , and ultimately spend a year in prison because of it?

Personally I would not presume to know what it must have been like to have to cope under that cauldron of pressure , or how I would react ,if I had to do so.

 

It is a superlative of ballsy. Completely legit...

Though I feel the depth and breadth of my work here has certainly allowed me poetic license.

 

Which ,to your credit you have taken full advantage of.

 

Don't you think 35 is a bit late to be learning new moves?