Why did Pacquiao Duck Floyd?

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  1. ashl3y72

    ashl3y72 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    :deal

    Floyd should have said "nah, not ten million, I can do 5 million though for every pound over" and If Pac said "Nope, no fight" and the fight got cancelled.

    Would the Pac stans like Boxing Fanatic and dumbdong be crying that Pac invented overweight penalties to duck the fight!?!?! :lol:
     
  2. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    The simple fact is if Pac wasnt hiding something he would have taken the test
     
  3. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    And the simple fact is, if USADA isnt willing to release Floyds records they are hiding something..... (Your Logic) :good
     
  4. ashl3y72

    ashl3y72 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Maybe Pac should take USADA tests and have both their records released if they need to go there.
     
  5. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Honestly the way I see it, if both do make the fight, Pac should test through USADA since thats Floyds preferred agency, and Floyd should test through VADA.
     
  6. ashl3y72

    ashl3y72 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I've no problem with either agencies. As far as I know Floyd has no problems with VADA that I've heard of?
     
  7. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    question that has never been answered ever since floyd would not agree to manny's compromise.

    except for hgh, what drug or procedure that pac could take or do that could escape detection from the unlimited **** test and 3 blood test???
     
  8. AbanDaNation

    AbanDaNation ESB's Asshole Full Member

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    actually moron, that contract wasnt released until June 1, 2012. i know it hurts your feelings
     
  9. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    I recall a little while back maybe a year ago, Arum said that Manny agrees to testing but they will use Vada, From what I recall Floyd is USADA all day and will not use VADA.

    GBP has recently made it pretty obvious his fighters will not be using VADA testing, thats what costed Trout the fight with Canelo, he requested VADA testing.
     
  10. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Both Arum and Mayweather are ducking each other using cheap excuses. Pacquiao ducks no one.
     
  11. AbanDaNation

    AbanDaNation ESB's Asshole Full Member

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    im glad you asked such a good question...here you go

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    Measuring hematocrit levels (percentage of red blood cells to total whole blood volume) is very important. For example, even without a positive urine test for EPO, cyclists are temporarily suspended for two weeks if their hematocrit is greater than 50%. An elevated hematocrit can provide a significant advantage to a fighter by enhancing oxygen uptake and utilization.
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    "One, I think that increasing hematocrit levels, whether it’s by traditional blood-doping or the use of EPO, is of greater benefit to a boxer than the use of growth-hormone," he explained."So growth-hormone is more of an anti-catobolic agent that may help to accelerate the healing of the tissue repair process. But growth-hormone is not anabolic as an anabolic steroid. It’s an anti-catabolic agent and I believe that you don’t get a very big bang for your buck. I’m not a huge fan of growth-hormone. I don’t think it’s tremendously beneficial performance enhancing substance.

    "EPO, though, in terms of boxing, is absolutely huge, both in training and as well as in a fight, especially during the later rounds."


    Conte does have experience in boxing, having worked with Andre Ward and Eddie Chambers, recently, and back in 2003, during the heyday of BALCO, assisted with Shane Mosley in his usage of illegal P.E.D’s in his rematch with Oscar De La Hoya. When asked if Mosley was on EPO for that fight, Conte answered,"Yes, he was."

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    "Otherwise," he explains,"it’s what they call ’announced testing’ and I’ve historically called that ’I.Q. testing’. So to apply that to other sports, it would be like showing up to training camp for Major League Baseball and they test you. That’s announced testing.
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    The clearance time of most of these drugs that are out there are well known."


    He also says that for these substances to be utilized at their maximum efficiency, they must be properly cycled and be out of your system by the time competition begins.

    "Creams, transdurmals, clear the fastest. Orals, would be next. Water-based drugs- including testosterone- would be next, then the oil-based. So some of these can clear in a matter of hours and days," explained Conte."So if you know when you’re going to be tested a week out, you go off the use of oral testosterone, for example, you’re going to test negative. So that is really an issue."

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  12. ashl3y72

    ashl3y72 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No Arum said he'd use WADA, and not the USADA, even though WADA doesn't even do testing so that kind of fell apart.

    I've never heard Mayweather say anything bad about VADA or rejecting a proposal to use it.
     
  13. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    those provisions mentioned in the article were already reported/known a long time ago.

    nevertheless, welcome to the debate. :lol:
     
  14. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    why did he duck floyd??? same reason he ducked guzman and raheem....he knew he had no chance.
     
  15. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    again the question, what's the drug or procedure other than hgh that could escape detection from the unlimited **** test and 3 blood test??

    don't respond if you can't give the drug or the procedures name.