Who's greater: Wladimir Klitschko or Mike Tyson?

Valuev went life and death with a shot Holyfield

Holyfield was no where near prime when he fought Ruiz. He was past prime by the time he fought Tyson

 

Watch the abuse you **** breathed road sweeper. He was slightly past best at most.

 

Bull**** he was past prime. Tyson definitely was.

 

Not at all,it's just an observation when watching Wlad he's terrified of being hit.

 

Holyfield was past prime by the time he fought Bobby Czyx. His reflexes had clearly slipped by that point

 

Actually British pussies have ruined the heavyweight division. They either boast that they will eat one Klitschko for breakfast and then the other for dinner but once they get a mouth full they don't want another bite and retire from the table. Or they go into the fight with stubbed little toes and run and flop the entire night expecting the referee to help them or the latest thing; I'M NOT READY YET. Come on, Klitschko is supposedly the worst heavyweight of all time, how much preparation do you need? After all, Leon Spinks had only 8 pro fights when he took Ali's title from him and Pete Rademacher had 0 pro fights when he fought for a title. Either shut up or grow a set of balls and get in the rings. MEEEE-OOOW. Bring on Price and Fury, let's see how tough they are. We won't see those anytime soon.

 

I think you meant Fury & Price but your post is spot on other than that. :good

 

Wlad took 35 fights before he stepped up to challenge for a world title, and that was for the WBO back when it was **** atsch

 

WOW...........

One or two things must be in play here.. One either I am way to old, or two its been way to long since I had visited the General section of this forum..

My guess is most of the "posting" going on in this thread is from that of the younger generation since the vote seems to be pretty spot on..

I will agree that the topic is worth debate since on paper Wlad seems to be in Tyson's league, but my guess is most of the Wlad support is coming from the younger generation.. That is the only conclusion I can come to based on the ignorance and lack of knowledge on the past opposition of Tyson and Holyfield

In terms of the past, let me just state that I was there, I didn't garner my opinion of the opposition based on what I have read or by watching on you tube.. I grew up watching Tyson, Holyfield etc...

To say that Wlad and Tyson's opposition is even remotely close is criminal in my view.. Its NOT, take even a fighter like Tony Tucker if he were in the Wlad era with the same resume at the time he fought Tyson he would maybe be Wlads best scalp.. Now take into account that he was no where near Tyson's best scalp..

A few factors here made this an easy question for me, one H2H Tyson wins the fight almost everytime hands down. And two the era is worlds apart..

I read someone bashing Holyfield's win over Bert Cooper, that version of Bert Cooper would give Wlad Hell!! Unless you were there and actually saw those fighters fight in the 90's my guess is you must be uninformed or simply ignoring what was there... Bert Cooper was a drug addict and early on after he lost to Carl Williams didn't give a ****... But around the Holyfield time he had gotten his **** together and was a very serious Heavyweight, many fighters claim he was the biggest puncher they had ever faced.. Fighter like Oliver Mccall who was either in with or sparred with damn near everyone.. Moorer and Mecer also claimed Bert hit like a beast.. So though his record looks weak, he was no joke at that time..

Someone also stated that Arreola was better then some of Tyson's title challengers......................... Really, which ones??

Another thing that was bothersome that I read was Holyfield lost to Ruiz, wow Holyfield was already shot to **** at that point so explain how that's a valid argument????

In this debate you have to throw out in my opinion Tyson vs Lewis, Williams or Mcbride.. I will give you Douglas though Mike was not Mike that night and Douglas was not Douglas. Mike was off, and Buster was great on that night.
But that was still Tyson in his Prime, even though he took that night off and Buster was playing for keeps...

Holyfield was also all but finished after the two fights with Lennox so judging him beyond there is also in my opinion not fair..

On to another thing I read.. Ruddock was not great he lost to Morrison, again you are judging Ruddock at the tail end of his career.. Razor was a feared heavyweight at certain points, he had vicious KO wins over former champs like Bonecrusher Smith and Michael Dokes.. The Ruddock that went to war with Tyson twice I would give a great chance vs Wlad.. Morrison also would be more then a formidable challenger in this current era, with is punch he could KO Wlad, I think Wlad would clearly beat Tommy but Tommy would have the punchers chance..

There is just so much posted here that drives me insane, If you vote for Wlad I get it, he a very well Tooled big man and has been on top it seems like forever...... Yawn..... But Mike was in a different league.. When all is said and done Wlad will have compiled quite a nice stat line, but people will never forget about Mike he was one of those electric fighters that only come along once in awhile..

The only answer to me guys is Tyson, all day long!!!!

 

You're just an insecure hater.
Ali looked terrified fighting CW+ Joe Frazier, clinching and holding Joe like it was foreplay. Wlad definitely learned from one of the best

What's you point. I know you don't have one.
Mikey T losses to Wlad unless he can get to Wlad early. A motivated B Douglas stopped a prime Tyson LAWL :yep

Keep that myth alive. F'n Arreola, if he gets to the middle rounds would wear out Tyson - Arreola ! :tong

 

Really? Tyson by a lot id think

 

Tyson easily. Wladimir doesn't have a single name on his resume that would give Tyson any kind of trouble.

Wladimir has no ATG fighters on his resume.

 

What ATGs (and that was late 80s to 90s ones) did Tyson beat?
An old Holmes :-(
The only big ATG that Mikey faced was LL and Lewis abused Tyson :yep