Nigel Benn v Carl Froch

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  1. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At 168 lbs of course.
     
  2. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  3. AREA 53

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    Nigel was not the destroyer of old at Super Middle that he was at Middle, he had to become a bit more "Well Rounded" that enabled him to "Deal" with Boxers like Nicky Piper, lenzi morgan, a hesitant Henry Wharton and Honest Trier Lou Gent amongst others, with A genuine world class opponent in the other corner, Like Eubank or McClellan and Nigel had a desperate fight on his hands, he of course rose to the challenge, I'm not sure the all out aggression approach will work with Carl, who is a good heavy handed boxer, that you cant just walk through, Carls Chin of course would be a great asset in a fight with Nigel, i dont think Nigels Chin would stand up to Carls heavy Combo's, His Will would take him through some early exchanges, but whereas Eubank fought off the back foot by nature, and Gerald was forced into the unfamiliar role of Hunted, Carl i feel is a great "Time-Bider" who will keep Nigel occupied with the Jab, as he did Abraham, and when he cuts loose on Nigel, he will have a greater accuracy than McClellan employed, It might look like the Jermain Taylor fight to a degree, with the end coming around the 9th,

    I Like Nigel at Middleweight much more lethal...at Supermiddle he was a much Slower Poison...Sometimes the poison does not get time to act...Meanwhile the Cobra is ready to inject his own deadly Serum.
     
  4. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I personally believe that Benn was much more skilled, paitent and savvy at 168 than the puncher who gassed in fights at 160.

    I am not a big Benn fan...or even a benn fan at all, but he would stop Froch without to much trouble.
     
  5. frankenfrank

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    Froch stops Benn . Almost a complete unproven whom got stopped by Watson , Eubanks , Collins*2 and would have also been McClellan in addition 2 them if it wasn't 4 that criminal filling in 4 a referee .
    Another 1 of Benn's greatest (4 him) wins is a win over completely dehydrated Iran Barkley , whom never weighed in @ 160 lbs again .
    True that Barkley was 2 dehydrated @ 160 lbs years prior , but it got worse and Benn caught him @ his new peak of difficulty in making d weight .

    So Benn got stopped 4 (actually 5) times by d time he retired @ a not Xtremely late 32 with 2 of his "wins" not counting and 1 of them surely reversed in2 a stoppage loss if d law had n open i on d sport .


    Froch is 34 already , started @ a somewhat older age , but aging does not weight 4 1's career 2 begin & Benn didn't start @ a particularly tender age either . Yet Froch wasn't even close 2 being stopped yet , let alone stopped , and has many more wins that count and many less losses not 2 mention much less telling losses .

    While i consider McClellan & Eubanks superior 2 any man Froch fought , Benn was/was just about getting stopped by these 2 with his wins being against lesser opponents than Froch's wins .

    Benn's record is almost null , when picked 2 win it is usually based on Benn's "winning" efforts vs a dead Barkley and being saved by d ref against McClellan and later impressively fouling his way 2wards a win over d already damaged goods (since b4 d fight even started) McClellan .
    PPL ignore facts and use 2 scams in order 2 brainwash d usual suspect cattle . Then that same cattle go on and recycle d glory tales about these 2 scams . I still haven't watched Benn vs Wharton and Benn vs David Noel , but if legit , then those R Benn's 2 biggest wins . True it's still more than what Ricardo Lopez achieved , but not by much and much less than Froch's achievements . Benn also has d Eubanks draw 2 his credit , but then Eubanks stopped him prior 2 it .

    P4P i believe it's clear 2 most that Froch > Benn . H2H I think Froch could do just enough better than Henry Wharton & David Noel 2 make it pretty safe 2 predict that Benn does not stop him . But does Benn last as long as Taylor or even Bute did ? if so then how ? by making himself more available 2 hit ? There is just nothing real 2 base d Benn legend on .
    Benn is far below d likes of Rubin Carter and Bennie Briscoe . Nigel Benn was bigger and fitter but on d same level of John Mugabi .
    Just being aware and making others aware of d facts underlying d boxrec record . PPL ignore these things .

    Froch was not 1 of d bums Nigel Benn could look impressive against , I doubt if any1 2day thinks this way .

    Prime Benn only lost badly when it mattered , and i think Froch is better than Watson even if didn't fight like him .

    It's so pathetic forming a legend based on fouling damaged goods after being saved by d ref from it , and stopping n already dead man whom barely stood up even without getting hit , that keeps getting up every time . Benn looked great physically , but is in fact more overrated as a puncher than Frank Bruno was/is .

    But now d cattle will pick "Benn of Eubanks #2" 2 outbox Froch .
    Y didn't Bute do it then ? Y didn't Taylor ? was "Benn of Eubanks #2" a better boxer than them ?
     
  6. Brighton bomber

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    Benn grinds Froch down and stops him inside 10 rounds.

    Froch in terms of speed and boxing ability cannot compare to guys like Watson and Eubank who were clearly better boxers. Benn's head movement, speed and aggression would see him getting inside on Froch where he would dominate.
     
  7. robert ungurean

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  9. duranimal

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    I'am for Benn who'll be far to bizzy for Froch & he'll do him in 6 tops albeit with the caveat that Froch can bang & may get lucky but he's way way too one dimensional for me in comparison too Nigel who'll swamp him in violence.
     
  10. HerolGee

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    Benn is a monster on his day and on that day would win.

    Hes also very lucky to get some of his wins, and Froch has the skill edge to beat him, plus the durability and weight advantage, seeing as Benn was a little subdued at SMW. That subduement did mean he fought with more skill in his later career, mind you.
     
  11. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pretty much how I envisage it,Duranimal. It would have to be what I refer to as the 'Prime' Benn,though,of 1991-93 (How I see it,anyway) The younger model would've gassed out after eight rounds or so.
     
  12. Sibbo

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    Benn for me, he would swarm all over Froch in the early rounds and the ref would have to step in around R5.

    IF Froch got through those early rounds, he would take control as Benn tired but that's a huge IF.

    Still Benn for me :)
     
  13. Boxalot

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    Froch late stoppage.

    He's more durable, fitter, patient and has better skills imo.
     
  14. kmac

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    benn is the better overall fighter but i think this would be a classic fight.
     
  15. Bokaj

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    What? There are very few SMWs that's ever been top class for that's been less skillful than Froch.

    Froch has got a good chance, though. He's a hard match-up for most, even though his technical skills are absolute woeful.