Pacquiao vs. Vasquez/Marquez at 122

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  1. LeonardLeroy

    LeonardLeroy Active Member Full Member

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    Christ on the **** why would you say this.
     
  2. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    calm down. that's blasphemy.

    Say all the **** you want to anybody except HIM. Blasphemy is bad! Just a friendly reminder ! :p
     
  3. Nestea

    Nestea Thirst Remover Full Member

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    Dudes just let it go. It's impossible to make someone accept another one's beliefs. Let's just watch boxers fight in the ring. What ya say?
     
  4. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very tough one but I tell you something. In the sparring sessions Vazquez and PacMan had together Vazquez constantly gave Pacquiao a beating! Several sources confirmed it, a friend of mine actually saw a few sparring matches in the Roach gym. Of course it's just sparring but at least it's safe to say that when they worked together, Vazquez prepared PacMan for his wars.

    Of course now Israel is with Rudy and I think they're better together. The all-out action PacMan of his 122 days would lose to Vazquez IMO who's a better boxer, while the PacMan who defeated Morales would beat Vazquez of course in a higher weight class. I see Marquez defeating PacMan at 122 as well but his chin is not the best so it's hard to pick, PacMan could pull it off by an upset KO, Rafael ahead on the cards. One thing I'm pretty sure of: Rafael’s great jab would've given PacMan BIG problems!
     
  5. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ledwaba has an excelent jab but still no match with Pac. Rafa & Izzy doesn't have the sturdy chin to make it a contest with Pac. They're just comparable to Gatti-Ward, they match up well & give us Great fights. But Match them up with an elite fighter, they will be beaten. Look what happened to Gatti when he met PBF. I even pick Guerrero & Linares over both guys.
     
  6. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When were Arturo Gatti and Mickey Ward solid names on the p4p list and considered as HOFs before facing each other? It's good to support your fighter but it seems that your adoration of the PacMan is overshadowing your sense of objectivity.
     
  7. fitzgeraldz

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    never happen -- I see Vasquez moving up to featherweight but PacMan or JMM is going to move down.
     
  8. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I give you a better Perspective:

    Izzy makes life & death against Johnny Gonzalez who was a 118 pounder. Gonzales just got Koed by an old smaller Penalosa. I think both rafa & Izzy was overrated in a P4P sense. Pac, PBF, Pavlik, Cotto, Bhop, MAB, EM & JMM, Calzaghe are the true P4P pounder. These can dominate top competition during their prime.

    These guys can move up different divisions & still demonstrate the same toughness. You can't say the same with both Izzy & Rafa. Rafa hasnt won in a dominating fashion outside his 118 class. Same with Izzy, he hasnt gone out of 122, and yet he already struggled with 118 pounders. What do you think are their chances against big feathers like Linares & Guererro???
     
  9. Boxing Knight

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    Wilfredo Gomez would have knocked them the **** out at 122.
     
  10. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Welcome to ESB, Sting-ky Crab!!!

    Ask underdog how I owned him here. He's a Talangka like you.

    Most ESB Pinoys called me a Guru here, So give respect.
     
  11. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It still has to Happen. Just wait..........

    I believe also that Pac has the limit. I'll stop at PBF. I won't ask for Pavlik, Calzaghe & Bhop.
     
  12. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    After Pac dominates hatton you'll change your views.
     
  13. Galaxy

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    no amount of homerrism can change the fact that pac isnt stopping anyone at above 135. if you think pac lost power against EM cuz of the "Winning" 8 ounce glove, wait till he wears the 10-ounce gloves. Pac's only wants to fight hatton for the money, only the homers think he'll actually win.


    one topic. IMO Pac stops both Izzy and Rafa. Izzy is the kinda fighter Pac eats up, the slow, easy to hit boxer-punchers with out an iron chin. Izzy's chin dint get better its that rafas power dint move up. Rafa's always been a slugger, his the total opposite of JMM when he gets hit he likes to trade and thats bad news for him he doesnt have the iron chin or the power he had at 118 to stop pac from unleashing his assault. Pacs got to much speed on both these guys.
     
  14. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    They are joking PacDbest. Its more of a "nuthugging extrordinare" type of moniker.
     
  15. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Good post. Like you, I don't dislike PacDbest on any personal level, he seem s like an innocent enough guy. Its his crazy claims that irk me sometimes that I feel need to be exposed.