Khan hints Roach break up...

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Go Getta, Jul 16, 2012.


  1. rainmaker

    rainmaker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tabares actually gave him sound advice in that clip. He even told Khan multiple times not to get wild and box his opponent instead of brawling with him To which Khan replied "it's boring" showing just exactly where his mind is when in the ring. He doesn't listen and take anything in. He has to change that or else he is getting knocked out again.
     
  2. FIN

    FIN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The problem with Khan is at the elite level he is gonna have to take some heavy punches,no matter how much he improves his defence he will still ocasionally get hit and the problem is he has a very vunerable chin,i still think Khan has another few big wins left in him but he will be knocked out bad atleast once more before he retires..,has to be said Khan is one of the most exciting fighters of the last decade,never in a bad fight..
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pretty much and he has the height/reach/speed to do so imo

    Roach won't put forward such a gameplan, he's trains boxers to be fighters
     
  4. Go Getta

    Go Getta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The right balance of attack and covering up/Defence being aware of what's happening around him is needed, this reckless attacking is shocking.

    Roach don't shout at Khan in the corner, bet Roach don't even shout at Khan when sparring, this softy softy **** does not work, Khan needs a live trainer who would put him in his place when he is in the wrong so he don't make them mistakes again.

    Roach is health is not the best, and I think looking at his fighters performance of late it's showing on them to.

    Khan needs a full time live wire switched on no bull **** trainer.
     
  5. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I just don't think Sr is suited to Khan at all, he's too robotic to try and learn those kinda techniques.

    Not really sure Oscar improved under him either, tbh.

    Hatton would have been laid out by Pac regardless, you're right about that, mind.

    Agreed.

    +1 :yep

    He's still the same he always was. He's just tactically superior for the most part, until he gets hit with a good shot, then all common sense goes out of the window.

    Not sure about The Dark One tbh.

    Khan isn't capable of the hands down, lean back defence.... and he can't counter with the right hand either.

    TDO is pretty one-dimensional in all honesty, he's simply got two fighters who work with that style, one more so than the other.
     
  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    DLH fought under FMS for Gatti, his whole 154lb career (bar FMJ) and Hopkins/Sturm. I thought he boxed well in that period bar Sturm

    Hatton under any coach would get dispatched by Pacman. Against Tyszu and he used wrestling and infighting to suffocate his opponents punches, under FMS he was asked to box more and he used his jab/right more and his back seemed stiffer. Aside from the jab all of those things weren't helping him because his defence was based around suffocation. He kept lowish hands and led with wide hooks and stepped in with his chin in the air. Hatton would be ko'd doing that no matter who trained him. Look at Hatton knocking out Maussa, he makes all the same mistakes and looks like a KO waiting to happen. He's very lucky that only Mayweather and Pacquaio KO'd him, others could have

    The main issue with Sr is his wages and his lung condition
     
  7. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    I believe this is the best thing for all involved , Roach is on his way out , the Wild Card enigma is coming to an end

    But travelling to the Phillipines IMHO isn't the problem , he and Roach have a lot to answer for , for the way he fought Danny Garcia and the way he fought Lamont Peterson

    Ill add BTW that neither fighter is a chump nor is / was it a given that Khan would beat them , but he didn't give himself a ******* chance !!! , basic tactics and very very basic technical mistakes were being made (defensively) which in a nut shell " SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING " , or if the kid cannot fight inside (no **** sherlock) then he shouldn't be giving his opponent , any of his opponents a chance to engage him inside , easier said than done but something that can be done with an in out style !! Roach and Khan are done , but more importantly Khan himself needs to humble up and toughen up and get his surroundings right , he needs to take a leaf out of more grounded fighters books and stop believing he's a superstar , he's a fighter who isn't perfect trying to mix it with the elite of the sport , to do this he needs to work harder and fight strategically than all of the current elite fighters in the world or he simply won't reach that level , elite should be re phrased actually to world class

    Elite is something i believe is just too much of a stretch for Khan
     
  8. upgrayedd

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    The way I see it Khan has two problems - ongoing technical flaws, and flaws in his mental approach.

    Booth could definately help on the mental side, he's a strong character and good at imposing his (dark) will onto fighters.

    On the technical side I'm not sure. To be honest, I don't and I don't think anyone really knows how adaptable Booth is on the technical front. Haye and Groves both fight in similar relex-based fashion, and have recently had similar gameplans. Khan would need something different, and really needs some of his technical issues ironing out to succeed (in the long term).

    And if Khan went to him - he still wouldn't be number one in the pecking order. But that said, the Booth camp would appear to be a lot more stable than the Roach one (based in London full-time etc).

    But hell, first thing Khan needs to do is admit he has faults, and that's the first step!
     
  9. Geddy Lee

    Geddy Lee Well-Known Member Full Member

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    with how bad his chin is , Khan can only be a boxer with moving away style trying to pick up points and never got into a real fight, he will have to fight the way Johny nelson did, being **** scared to get hit.
     
  10. Go Getta

    Go Getta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Top post again mate, agree with on all points.
     
  11. Lazarus

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    If Amir needs a new trainer, it should be Virgil Hunter.

    It may just be a learning deficiency on Amir's part. Although, I doubt it.
     
  12. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Thank you
     
  13. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Couldn't agree more.
     
  14. Peter__1987

    Peter__1987 Guest

    Ohhhhh here it comes :lol:

    I ****in knew it, a day or two after the fight and now it's Freddie Roach's fault :lol:
     
  15. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Steward only arrives during the last few weeks of training camp I heard somewhere.