Vitali Klitschko vs Rocky Marciano

What is funny; is I do believe they are Number 1 and 2 for Heavyweight Champion KO Ratio... but this fight could easily go the distance

 

A) your not wrong

B) yes but he's rarely looked outstanding in doing so - I'm only ever left saying to myself "the only great fighter he ever fought was Lennox Lewis (an old Lewis at that) and look how tough of a fight he had - its the only real fight he's has which tells you something out the levels - plus I'd date say a good number of the career rounds he lost were as a result of the Lewis fight which tells me something aswell

 

You're tossing around "greatness" as though it were some measurement of relative worth. Was a 185 pound Ezzard Charles really a "great" heavyweight who would have made his mark in the 1990's or 2000's or was he a formerly great light heavy who was on fumes by the time he met The Rock and was trying to cash in his last ticket in the high paying heavyweight rank?

 

Seamus,

Charles had to had more than fumes to put up that great performance against Marciano in June of 1954. I think more like he had 3/4 of a tank of gas left, and during the Marciano fight, he left his car lights on. When the fight ended, his car battery died. So did his career.

 

Didn't he lose 2 of his previous 4 fights or something?

 

Sure, but then one could say he won 11 of his last 13? I can play that game.

Then when you take into factor Charles trained his ass off for the first Marciano fight since he knew it was his last chance, he came in as possibly physically and mentally prepared he could be for his 32 year old self. Charles reflexes weren't what they once were in 1949, but they were still very good.


This was his most recent performance prior to the Marciano fight...pretty devastating if you ask me
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and he went on to lose the better half of his remaining fights if memory serves. Is a 185 pound version of that fighter really analogous to even a decent 220 pound heavy over the past decade?

or are you going to with the "Rocky destroyed him" line of argumentation?

 

No, I think Ezzard Charles is a modern light-heavyweight/cruiserweight. I think he would dominate both weight classes. He couldn't handle the heavyweights today. Their too big, powerful and skilled.

One thing about Marciano, once you fought him, you were never the same again. Check Rocky's opponents records after they fought Marciano, compared to their records before they fought him. That's why he was one of the greatest sub 190lb fighters of all time. He was the ring's ultimate animal.

 

Seamus,

How do you see Tyson Fury doing in Johnsons/Dempseys era?

 

It helps he fought so many of them on their way out.

That said, he fought the best available and ducked no one.

 

I prefer not to wager too much of a guess on incomplete works (and I prefer not to watch Tyson Fury fights), but if pushed to comment, I would say he would be on the B-level, at best along the likes of Fulton. He's so god damned slow that I do see smaller guys with power being able to take him out, guys like a healthy Miske. But often enough he would use his size, strength and power to take the day. He would have to lose some LB's I imagine for the style and length of fights back then. He is not the second coming of Jess Willard if that's where you are going with this.

 

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A Fury fan, are you?

 

The size difference may be substantial enough to decide this fight. I'm not saying its a given, but I think I'd favour Vitali. He's got the power to drop and stop Marciano, but it is the same vice versa. Rocky would certainly give Vitali trouble for as long as he's in there Could Marciano pressure Vitali enough to win a tight decision or even stop him late? I'm not so sure he could, but he'd give one hell of an effort that's for sure.

 

So which modern supersize heavyweights today do you feel would dominate during Dempsey's era?