Should Vitali leave Bernd Boente if he won't let him fight Haye?

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  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bönte is Wlad's daddy. Wlad doesn't make a single decision himself.
     
  2. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad makes his own decision, no worry about this. Nobody tells Wlad what do to.

    This thread is about Vitali:

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  3. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fire him?! Boente owns Wlad & Vitali, they can't take a dump without his consent.
     
  4. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad & Vit are employees of Bönte. Nothing happens without his approval.
     
  5. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Hmmmmm, why so angry Rico? It's pretty sad when you have to respond by trying to provoke someone with nationality baiting and can't make a post without mentioning glass jaws. Luckily I am not one to get drawn into such childish discussion.

    I think you need to take a breather, have a glass of water, forget about everything that happened before and just focus on the most recent chain of events:

    - Haye has said he wants to fight Vitali.

    - Vitali said he wants to fight Haye.

    - Boente said Haye should fight Chisora and the winner gets Vitali.

    - Boente now says Vitali will fight Charrr instead.

    Now, I think some 14 year olds are pasting pictures of glass on people's faces - you should probably get involved.

    I know that you like to think of Wlad as an omnipotent, infallible individual, but this is naive even for you jisi.

    Boente runs the show at K2and the brothers do what they're told. Vtheres two fighters who want to fight each other, but Boente is exercising his dominance and forcing Vitali into a fight against someone who 90% of boxing fans have never heard of.

    I guess if you don't believe this then you're actually admitting that Wlad is the one who demands his opponents sign contracts with unprecedented clauses where a fighter must fight his brother and then him again should he win, not to mention offering them outrageously low purses.

    It also means the Wlad is the one who has been choosing to fight people like Jean-Mark Mormeck? Really?

    Is that what you're saying?

    Boente runs the show at K2, and the Klitschkos are his employees.
     
  6. JN43

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    I thought slavery had ended. as a black man boente disgusts me
     
  7. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    The supposedly 'oh-so smart & educated' Klitschkos may be book-smart, but they're not business savy. Bönte is running the show and probably rips them off Don King style as he pockets most of the money for himself.

    Probably pays the brothers just scraps and they don't even have a clue what's going on.
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bönte is the boss and enjoys sharing the crackpipe with real cool guys:

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  9. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Haye has had 3 years to fight Vitali he decided to fight Valuev in one of the worst fights ever then fought Audley Harrison then when he fought Wlad he showed up and was too scared to even try now he wants to fight Vitali when he could have fought him years ago. Haye is the issue here. And Haye chose to fight Chisora over Vitali anyway I don't know why you keep posting that Vitali chose Charr instead that isn't what happened and as multiple people already pointed out to you the timelines don't even match up. Nobody outside of the UK cares about David Haye he is all talk the Brits are the only people gullible enough to keep falling for his crap.
     
  10. shaunster101

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    I to say it, but Vitali is going to end up just like Holyfield, Jones Jr and Toney. He plans to retire now, but he'll soon realise that he's not half as rich as he thought. He'll go back and review his contracts and realise that Boente wasn't skimming off the top, he was just leaving the dregs.

    Vitali's already lost his legs and his speed, and I hate to picture the kind of beatings he's going to take in the future.

    Luckily for Wlad he has a few more years in him, so he will be able to sign for a trustworthy outfit like Goldenboy or Hayemaker promotions and earn his retirement fund while he's still fit and healthy.
     
  11. shaunster101

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    Again, more nationality baiting. Must try harder Rico! Although I'm impressed you were able to construct an entire post without mentioning glass jaws :happy

    Are you denying that Boente publically announced that the winner of Haye - Chisora will fight Vitali?

    Are you denying that Boente has reneged on this deal and has instead organised a fight with Charr?

    You say that nobody cares about Haye outside of Britain?

    Remind me, after getting booed out of MSG and HBO dropped Wlad after his sleep inducing fight against Ibrigimov, wasn't it David Haye who got Wlad on HBO? I think you'll find it was. Also, remind me, were Wlad's subsequent fights against Mormeck (genuinely worse than Audley Harrison) and Tony Thompson on HBO? Because I seem to recall that they were on the same US channel as Haye's fight against Chisora, which is weird, as it would suggest that people in North America care as little about Wlad as you say they do about Wlad.

    Also, one last thing, I'm not sure you're one who should be accusing others of gullibility ;)
     
  12. madballster

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    True. Would be sad to see a 55 year old Vitali making the rounds as a journeyman, fighting for scraps just to pay his debt after he realizes Bönte ripped him off.

    All this talk of 'educated' Klitschkos seriously needs to stop. If they were educated they wouldn't have a guy employ them using slave contracts like Bönte is doing.
     
  13. shaunster101

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    Yeah, but you think Haye didn't deserve 50% of his own tv deal :lol:

    You also said Haye would run and try not to fight against Chisora :lol:

    I know. They get given honorary doctorates in one of the most corrupt countries on earth and now everyone acts like they're the second coming of Einstein.

    The thing that may save Vitali is his weak skin. As he ages it won't take much to cut and stop him, so he may be saved too many concussive blows to the head. Still, it'll be sad to see a fighter like Vitali cut and stopped by journeyman when before it would take a truly great fighter like Lennox Lewis to tear his face to shreds and stop him.

    Hopefully Wlad can earn enough in his remaining years to help Vitali out and save him from this lifestyle. But it's not going to be easy, given that he can't get on American TV where the big money is.
     
  14. shaunster101

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    You said Haye didn't deserve 50:50 against Wlad.

    I haven't seen a your Haye - Chisora prediction :lol:
     
  15. Overhill

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    Few Britons seem to be way more nuts now than they were before Wlad fight..(?)

    Is plausible Haye win, or Vitali loss that important? Pretty much everyone thinks Vitali's declining.