Adrien Broner - All flash, no substance

he has the personality to be a boxing superstar. he looks stellar against poor opposition, I wouldn't call him a hype job or anything, but he still remains to be tested.

 

Ponce De Leon beat him for me, but I think the Litzau performance shows he has serious potential.

Future P4P talent? Maybe not but still could be elite at his divison.

 

Whats so bad about a fighter taking a loss.

Its people like you that are making fighters less reluctant to take risks. Lets look at the all times greats and their records.

A loss is a loss, Its how you come back from it that matters.

I hate how one loss means a fighter has been "exposed"

 

I'm not saying he should travel to America. I'm saying he won't travel to America and that it makes no economic sense for Broner to go to Japan. With that being said, I don't see how you could conclude that the two haven't fought because Broner's people don't think he could win.

Yep, Broner gets most of his money from HBO. Nope, HBO would not be showing the fight if it's Japan. Take some time to look at the time difference between Eastern Standard Time and Japan. I believe it's something like 12 hours. If Uchiyama is the bigger draw, then they fight would be shown primetime in Japan, meaning it wouldn't be worth it for HBO to pay much money for the fight as it would come on in the morning in the States.

There is basis for it, America is the largest media market in the world and thus has the highest earning potential. Again, what you're not getting is that it doesn't make economic sense for Broner to fight in Japan. He'll make more money here. The same is probably true for Uchiyama. That's why the fight hasn't happened.

Yes it is. If you can't understand that Broner will make the most money fighting in America, then there is zero sense in us discussing the economics invovled here.

No it doesn not. You've already admitted that Broner gets the bulk of his money from HBO. Fighting a guy like Burns in the U.K will not elicit much of a liscensing fee from HBO. Furthermore, that fight with Burns was supposed to happen but Burns is the one who said he couldn't make the weight.

C'mon man, this is a half assed analysis and a cop out. You know this.

 

His training session was total bull **** i don't see what everyone else sees either

 

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He's funny? I don't see anything funny about him. Is that stupid hair brushing thing suppose to br funny?

 

#moneyteam is coming for Broner's head :bbb

 

i dont like Adrian Broner,
i would like to face him in the ring.

 

Just watched De Leon vs. Broner sober. 6-3, 1 round even. What gets me is that Broner hypes himself on skill. He got outboxed by DeLeon, who was 10lb lighter and isn't a very outstanding boxer. The kid showed nothing remotely special in that fight. I was impressed with the Litzau destruction, but even Litzau was doing well before he got ktfo. The Perez fight was good, but Perez was so much smaller he had no chance.

People make a big deal about how much weight Ortiz and Chavez Jr put on after the weigh-in. Broner puts on as much and he's 20lb smaller than these guys. When he gets into a fight with a guy who's cutting the kind of weight he is, we'll see his punches become completely ineffective.

He's looking like a cheap Mayweather imitator with nowhere near the reflexes or ring smarts. Just a stance and quick hands. Gets hit far too easily to pull off that ****.

I don't think Escobedo beats him.

135
Tall powerpunchers
Demarco: Hits too hard, way too tall.
Molina: See above, just less skill.
Smart boxers
Burns: Good fight, Burns inside skill would make it interesting. Tough to call.
Slick boxers
Rees: Quick, better combos. Not much power but smart enough to win a decision
Lundy: Seems to be a much better fighter all around, a bit chinny though.

140
Olesegun: Would kill him. Absolutely kill him.
Maidana: Would run him down and club him all night.
Marquez: Far too intelligent. One punch from every combo would easily get through.
Khan: Picks him apart, chin or no chin.
Matthysse: Same deal as Ponce De Leon. Bodywork and craftiness.
Garcia: Too big and tough, would counter Broner like crazy.
Josesito: BREAKS THAT JAW

Why include 140lb fighters? Broner weighs at least 144 in the ring right now, killing himself to make weight. At 135 he'd probably come in closer to 150. Most of the guys at 140 come in around there, give or take 5lb. 140 is where we see Broner fight guys his own size. Hell, Josesito weighed 144 against Ortiz, who weighed in the 160's. Now he's going to 154.

 

This thread just went from ridiculous to STRAIGHT COMEDY!!!!

 

Are you kidding? Perez top 10? Guess you don't have to beat anyone at all to make the top ten.... And Escobedo top 10? How? Lose to every good fighter you face makes someonefirmly in the top 10?