Carl Froch or David Haye P4P?

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  1. persianprince

    persianprince Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who ranks higher P4P? :deal
     
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  2. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Froch, easily.
     
    ImElvis666, Jul 21, 2012
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  3. DrMo

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    Froch has fought much tougher opposition, but Haye deserves credit for fighting guys far larger than he is.
     
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  4. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Froch, obviously.

    But skill and talent-wise, Haye trumps him.
     
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  5. persianprince

    persianprince Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We are talking P4P...
     
    persianprince, Jul 21, 2012
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  6. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he has more talent and skill should he be ranked higher P4P?
     
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  7. Lilo

    Lilo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye doesn't get enough credit for fighting at such a weight disadvantage.

    He has also ruled a weight class - something Froch hasn't done. Froch has fought more high quality operators but was dominated by a guy the same size as him and has been beaten twice recently.

    Haye just.
     
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  8. DanishFightfan

    DanishFightfan Boxing Junkie banned

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    P4P Froch no doubt..
    Froch:
    Bute
    Pascal
    Dirrell
    Taylor
    Johnson

    Haye:
    Mormeck
    Valuev
    Maccarinelli
    Chisora
    Ruiz
     
    DanishFightfan, Jul 21, 2012
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  9. Kingkazim

    Kingkazim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just who the hell is voting for Haye??
     
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  10. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Does a better record always mean a better fighter:huh.
     
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  11. DanishFightfan

    DanishFightfan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Both Haye and Froch lost to the man at their (current) divisions..
    Just because you lose to someone bigger than yourself doesn't make it a "lesser" defeat, many HWs has fought at weight disadvantage..
     
    DanishFightfan, Jul 21, 2012
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  12. DanishFightfan

    DanishFightfan Boxing Junkie banned

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    P4P is a comparison between fighters across weight classes based on resume and achievements.
    Unless OP meant a fantasy P4P fight between Haye and Froch
     
    DanishFightfan, Jul 21, 2012
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  13. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I did, Froche was getting beaten by Taylor until Jermaine ran out of gas, lost to Kessler, should have lost to Dirrell, got completely schooled by Ward. He beats Bute and now he is the flavour of the month and extremely overrated around here. P4P, by definition Haye is a better fighter, Froch has a better record and has been active but he is not as good as Haye. I never liked either guy until people started to talk so much chit about Haye that i went back and watch his fights (now i would say I am somewhat of a fan) and he is head and shoulders above Froch
     
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  14. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    As a Cruiserweight Haye but Haye as a heavyweight .
     
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  15. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Resume and achievement is only an indicator on how good a fighter is. I would say Froch has overachieved and Haye has underachieved (well he was unified the CW titlist and moved up to fight and beat fighters a lot bigger than him. While I am not a fan of froch I do respect what he has done. But by definition P4P Haye is a better fighter
     
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