Carl Froch or David Haye P4P?

Ha...

Froch.

 

Froch obviously. He is already an ATG.

But they are aging in different directions. The older Froch gets the further he will drift from Andre Ward. The older Haye gets, the closer he will get to beating a Klitschko.

 

This.

 

Froch by a ****ing country mile.

 

David Haye has been the no1 in a weight division and and has won world titles at 2 weights, unifying titles at cruiserweight. Surely this means he should be higher p4p than carl froch, no?

 

:deal

Exactly, Froch has lost to the best fighters in his division(kessler and ward) and arguably dirrell, .. These people know **** all about boxing ...

 

P4P does froch have a win as good as mormeck? If so, who?
Mormeck was the No1 cruiserweight at the time, and he had wins over Braithwaite (who was ranked No1 at the time), and ONeil Bell (also ranked No1). Mormeck is clearly a better win than Bute. So for what reason are people voting froch, he has achieved less, and can't match haye's wins.

 

Haye is head and shoulders above froch

 

Froch by a country mile !

 

Froch and its NOT close

 

When has froch been at a 40lb weight disadvantage? Ok then

 

Haye is an ATG cruiser.

Hate him for what he is, but the guy is talented.

 

That looks pretty even to me, and you could even give Haye the edge for fighting guys that significantly outweigh him. You've left out Fragomeni for Haye which was another good win

 

You have to be kidding that looks even to you ? From a skill set their opponents are miles apart ..Its funny but I see more people building up Valuev and Ruiz was over the hill yet they look even to you :huhCome on KOA !

 

So what that Taylor gassed out? Froch finished him off perfectly in the very last round.
Dirrell is a talented fighter and did deserve that decision.
Lost to Kessler in a very close fight. Could have gotten the decision
Schooled by one of the best P4P fighters in the world

I could also flip it around and talk about all of Frochs great achievements but instead il talk about Haye.

Knocked out by an old Carl Thompson.
Mormeck is meh compared to Frochs oppositions
Maccarinelli has NO chin
Barrett is a journeyman
Valuev..no
Ruiz fight was a decade too late
Audley Harrison hahaha
The only real test Haye had was against Wladmir and he was bitchslapped
Chisora fight was a good ko

There isnt MUCH to cheer about in terms of quality of opposition that Haye has faced.