Lennox Lewis & David Haye vs Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko: Who has achieved more?

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  1. Atlanta

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  2. stanislove12

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    just the facts (very little opinion)

    Team klitschko (points)

    Wlad beat Haye +1 point
    Wlad's resume is worse than Lennox's but better than Haye's (especially at heavyweight) +1 point
    Vitaly's resume is worse than Lennox's but better than Haye's (especially at heavyweight) +1 point
    Both Wlad and Vitaly have a longer unbeaten streaks than Haye and Lennox +1
    Both klitschkos have more title defenses against the top contenders +1
    Both klitschkos appear more invincible at this time vs current opposition than Lennox or Haye did (that's an opinion, so you can take away a point if you don't feel like its true) +1
    i am sure there are other things i can think of but need to study don't have all day to spend on it.

    Haye and Lennox

    1) Lennox beat vitaly aka TKO6 +1 point
    2) Lennox's resume is considered better than either of the klitschkos +2 point
    3) Haye moved up and was champion in multiple division, plus fighting in a heavier division with a lot of success +1
    4) shaunster101 started this thread +1 (this is how it is, deal with it)

    alright and the winner is
    Klitschkos with 6 points.

    now deal with it and lets move on
     
  3. grouche

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    What are you mumbling brittard?
     
  4. bballchump11

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  5. HerolGee

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    possibly tko6
     
  6. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: Talk about cherrypicking statistics!
     
  7. cuchulain

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    Thoughts ?

    I think you're trolling again, Shaunster. :yep


    Individually, in order of achievement:

    Lennox
    Wlad
    Vitali
    David


    As for pairs achievement :

    Your assessment of Lennox & David is correct.

    Additionally,

    Lennox & Wlad > vitali & David
    Lennox & vitali > Wlad & David


    Thus, any pair that includes Lennox will come out tops here.


    You could substitute
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    In other words, David is not a factor here at all.
     
  8. HerolGee

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    they arent statistics lol
     
  9. stanislove12

    stanislove12 Active Member Full Member

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    ok which statstics would you pick then? everything else is opinion... i can assure you if this website was a russian or ukrainian or 80% of any other country then the klitschko's would be picked... but again everything is opinion so if you want to choose other stats to go on then please name them.
     
  10. KidJackal

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    Haye unifying cruiserweight an being a heavyweight titlist > vitali being a heavyweight titlist



    Lennox's achievements > wlads achievements
     
  11. stanislove12

    stanislove12 Active Member Full Member

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    Disagree on the Vitaly point.... this area is all opinion though.
     
  12. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    :lol:

    No way man, the Hayemaker brings a CW title and a victory over a fighter 100lbs heavier than him.
     
  13. KidJackal

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    It's all opinions mate, as somebody rightly said !


    I fully agree with you here, I mean at this moment lennox is the greater. Maybe wlad will be in the future :good
     
  14. JN43

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    C3 bitches
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  15. theboy_racer

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    Very true, a sloppy lazy looking Lewis ended the fight the stronger and fresher looking guy.

    Started slow, began walking through Vitali's punches, started landing some vicious uppercuts, cut up his face, had VK staggering after a right hook on the ropes at the end of the 6th holding on for dear life he was, VK exhausted almost walked back to the wrong corner.

    Weird thing is, at the end of the fight with Lewis rightly declared the TKO6 Winner, VK sits in his corner having accepted the decision UNTIL he his prompted by someone to make a fuss about it, ONLY THEN does he get up and start making a big deal and shouting "NO", totally fake, he wanted no more of Lewis that night and knew it was the right decision.