Does Floyd Have a Better Chance Against Leonard or Duran?

Man your post is getting worse by the next. I've already explained why it is a wacky logic. To bring a fight where they did bad as a measuring stick?

Where the hell u see 62-0? Better record my ass. Did Duran have an extensive amatuer backup of 160+ fights? an Olympian? Look at their first 18 opponents and tell me who fought better competition? Who lasted longer in their dominance? is no contest. use ur brain and think for urself who is a better fighter. you have obviously been told that Duran was a beast since u followed boxing. I guess if you repeat it for 20 years it must be true.

 

I need to stop posting? i'm one of the few on this site that actually conduct research instead of just blindly follow hype.

The impression i get from these boxing forums talk about unequal fantasy fights = whos better to Duran as some kind of Human tank and SRL is the most masterful boxer, like some tales of legends of something. Maybe i'm blind but i see them just as another great boxer instead of super human beings.

 

You say you actually conduct research yet say Floyd vs Ray at 140 and below ?

The irony.

 

Why not? at 130 is possibly FLoyd's best weight and SRL most uncomfortable weight which is why i favor FLoyd same as 135. 140 is the balance and 147 and up tilts in SRL favor. No one is going to convince me that SRL will just wipe the floor with Floyd Jr. If THey are the same size from 130-140 how is SRL going to use his advantages in size? He is not. Which means he will have to box Floyd which i don't think he can.

 

Sorry man , not here to argue, but its pretty clear you have never boxed and dont know the weights. I understand the points you are trying to make , but it doesnt work like that .

 

I like the way you put that

 

As a matter of Fact I HAVE BOXED PLENTY OF TIMES, years in fact and is another reason why i know that Jr. is truly gifted. One of the hardest techiques in boxing is not shoe shinning or throwing hard shots but rather is defense how to hit and escape without harm. Also disguisting feints and pull counters. I could never pull it off and Floyd Jr was doing pull counters at 16 years old. He was punishing guys who were throwing jabs at him. one of the safest punch to throw in boxing, you really can't f with that talent.

 

Assuming Floyd fights them both at their best weights, he would have more success vs 147lb Leonard than vs 135lb Duran

 

When Mayweather actually beats a middleweight let us know. Duran beat Barkley which Floyd sure the hell wouldn't, and SRL beat Hagler, again something Floyd could never do.

Mayweather has a great great style for what it is, but he has virtually no way of beating SRL beacause Leonard is virtually better in every area with perhaps the exception of defense. His hand speed is about the same, his power is far better, he throws way more combinations, he likely has a better chin, although we don't really know what Floyd's chin is like, but if Mosely can hurt him, both Duran and SRL sure as hell could too.

Duran is a warrior, he'd be pressed up against Floyd the entire fight, unless Floyd can box and move for an entire 12-15 rounds. But I find it hard to believe that Floyd would be standing at the end of a 12-15 round fight with Duran. Watch Duran against De Jesus, or SRL or Moore, or Barkley to get an idea of what I'm talking about. And Duran's defensive is way underrated by the recent generation. Angelo Dundee himself said a lot of people think Duran's just a brawler, but one look at his face after a fight tells you that he does a lot of cute things in there, because he barely has a scratch on him. He's the ultimate pressure fighter, and SLR is the most skilled boxer I've probably ever seen. Duran is at worst the 3rd best lightweight of all time, and most have him at number 1. Boxing historians have rated both these fighters in the top 10 p4p, with SRL being in the top 3 welterweights of all time, while Mayweather as good as he is, isn't even a top 20 fighter at this point in his career. Hell Duran was 72-1 when he started jumping weight from 135.

 

I don't know whether or not you've boxec by I've know I've been watching boxing for over 40 years and you show a complete lack of knowledge when it comes to Duran and Leonard. This much is obvious to anyone who has seen them fight.

 

Orginally i thought not and voted for SRL as being the harder of the two fights for Floyd but I've rethought this and I agree with you. That said, I don't think he beats either one.

 

I think over the course of a fight, Duran would throw enough bodyshots to prevent Floyd from moving out of range and I think he would catch him with someone in the later rounds. I could even see Duran loosing the first 3-4 rounds before the tide turns, but turn it would, because i don't see what Floyd has to stop Duran's relentless pressure. And I've seen both their careers some live (Duran - SRL) and some on youtube, and I have a great deal of respect for them both.

 

:rofl
sigh

 

So u think that Floyd wouldn't have a gameplan for Duran?? Landing these bodyshots requires for Duran to actually get to Floyd and keep him there. Floyd doesn't have to Ko Duran to stop "pressure" If you actually knows how boxing works you would know that there are many way to stop punch volume.

1) The most obvious one... Stay out of the range. Lateral movements, good defense, keeping your opponents of balance by lateral movements, pushing, and turning them to back out of danger.

2) Counter punching. Make them pay for missing shots, hit them coming in so they hesitate before rushing in. Despite the hype Duran does feel pain and does give a **** and tries not to get hit.

Floyd is very much capable to move laterally for 12 rounds as he have displayed time and time again. Even if Duran have punching opportunities on Floyd, he would only have a very small window to capatialize on. The window of Floyd landing on Duran is much bigger bc Duran is not some Defensive wizard. Again Floyd doesn't need to KO Duran, he can easily win by points.

 

wait wait

we've seen your punch bag videos in the training section you look like a chinese version of zelenoff hitting the bags.