Thoughts on HBO Compubox/ anyone count punches

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  1. Porgeous Porge

    Porgeous Porge Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Watched Donaire vs Mathebula again and while watching i saw a discrepancy in the punch stat

    in one of the later rounds Mathebula landed a right hand it definitely landed nothing special but Donaire backed away

    then the graphic came up power connects this round 9-0 Donaire....now isnt a right hand a power shot

    so i waited and thought maybe it didnt register yet but the graphic stayed up and didnt change

    i felt it was odd

    i also felt the Bradley vs Pac numbers were off

    do any of you consistently count punches in HBO fights do you guys see differences
     
    Porgeous Porge, Jul 25, 2012
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  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Mathebula whooped Donaire's ass :deal
     
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  3. Porgeous Porge

    Porgeous Porge Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i wasnt trying to debate the fight just the stats in HBO fights

    i saw a punch it definitely got in but didnt register on the punch tracker

    does anybody count punches in hbo fights and come up with very different results
     
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  4. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Compubox is bias as ****, its like the people doing it are listening to lampley.
     
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  5. TheGreat

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    Khan vs Garcia is a prime example of their Bull****
     
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  6. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I know, I was just trollin. I agree with you. Round 5 of Pac/Marquez III is a big example

    Pacquiao 13/45 29%
    Marquez 12/34 35%

    now watch that round and tell me that's accurate
    http://www.badlefthook.com/2011/12/...iao-vs-juan-manuel-marquez-3-full-fight-video


    I just watched the round and those numbers are a joke :lol:
     
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  7. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    I trust compubox for counting the number of punches thrown. I like it for the most part except when they inflate the punches landed figure for their favored fighter ala Juan-emmanroid III.

    You have to use your own judgement and make calls when looking at compubox. Sometimes they'll have completely phony bull**** numbers. It's up to you as a boxing fan to know when that's happening.
     
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  8. tonygrainge

    tonygrainge New Member Full Member

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    Really glad this has came up as a topic, I'm sick of arguing with people about how valid the stats are!... Now I have at least a little bit of evidence to back me up
     
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  9. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Wasn't that Juan's best round, one of the best rounds for showcasing brilliant technique in boxing history?
     
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  10. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    It annoys me during rounds when Lamps tells me how many punches the two dudes at ringside pressing buttons thought the 2 fighters landed in the previous round.
     
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  11. bballchump11

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    yep, he whooped his ass :verysad
     
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  12. Porgeous Porge

    Porgeous Porge Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ive been going back and trying to judge fights,,,i think im gonna start trying to count the shots from now on, maybe not the whole fight but watch the next hbo fight and count during some rounds

    i know as it happens live with all of it going on and the speed and the grazing glancing partially blocked shots are tough to see without slo mo

    but there are some real head scratchers
     
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  13. Natural1

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    Somebody should do that one time. Get four posters. One counts punches thrown by one boxer, and the other "punches landed", then two do the same for the other boxer.

    Lol if four posters would be willing to take the time. Maybe on a rewatch so they don't miss the actual fight the first time.


    I think compubox people should do it AFTER the fight. Have their crew watch the fight in slow motion, and double check, etc. Then you know it'd be pretty accurate.
     
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    team money
     
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  15. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    i think they base their numbers off of lamps calls and vice versa. :lol:
     
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