DeGale still managed by Frank

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  1. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Quick mention in Boxing News that "following a hearing James DeGale remains under contract with manager Frank ****** until April 2013"

    However it says he can fight for another promoter........as long as Frank gets 25% of his purse :nut
     
  2. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    25%!

    Take his trainers, 10%, promoters cut, training fees, tax etc, what the **** would be the point in him even getting in there.
     
  3. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    You could ask most boxers that question using the same figures. Thats just how it is.
     
  4. bam bam

    bam bam Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is that what is happening with Bellew?
     
  5. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats true, but the 25% seems excessive for a manager?
     
  6. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Steady :yep
     
  7. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dunno if someone knows this or not but if Frank also promotes DeGale then does he take an extra % cut for that as well? So 25% plus whatever he is due as a promoter?
     
  8. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yup id say so

    Being a promoter / manager of one fighter is legal here but was made illegal under that Ali act in US. Conflict of interest.
     
  9. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    It's been said before but a fighter shouldn't have the same individual carrying out the promoter and manager's jobs.

    ''Hi Frank, it's Frank''.

    ''Hello Frank, how are you?''

    ''Great, thanks, you?''

    ''Yes, great. What can I do for you?''

    ''I've got an interesting fight for James Degale. It's for the European title, against a teak tough, never been stopped guy who can't punch.... interested?''

    ''Goes without saying, I'll run it by James first''

    [thinks to himself]

    ''I don't really need to, do I?''

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    Disclaimer - I would like to make it perfectly clear that this post applies to all promoter manager relationships in boxing, not just concerning Mr ****** and his Clients.

    This isn't in any way meant in a defamatory manner.
     
  10. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Not really mate. For years the standard BBBofC boxer/ manager contract was 25%, I'm pretty sure most are still pretty much the same.
     
  11. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    yes. Don King had an extra twist on this where he'd pay the all tax out of the boxers 100%, but then give himself and his son Carl the 33% and 25% tax free based on the original 100%.
     
  12. zabs

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    Frank gave that tit like a million up front. So seems reaosnable to me.
     
  13. ai786

    ai786 Active Member Full Member

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    I think the 25% is for both Manager and Promoter deal. I remember reading it somewhere.
     
  14. iron_chin

    iron_chin Boxing Addict banned

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    thats a good deal in all fairness, ortiz manager was gettin 20% or something i read.
     
  15. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    If that figure (25%) has been calculated by a court or tribunal , that will be the total fee De Gale owes Frank in the eyes of the legal system (per fight , under another promotional outfit) , i imagine that will be it and no more , these things are decided on a) whats in the contract 1st and foremost , and b) whats morally right i.e. Franks involvement in the process of De Gale fighting under another banner , pretty comical actually being that it won't even be him dealing with it personally