Jerry Quarry vs. Ernie Shavers, 1973

How were his wins vs Liston 1, Cooper 1, and Johnson "phony"??

And please, dont trot out the tired old "Ali got five minutes between rounds" for Cooper argument, that old yarn has been disproven conclusively.

 

"...that old yarn has been disproven conclusively."


Oh that's right. I forgot. They disproved that right before they proved that up is down.

This genius must have watched the ESPN "revised" version of reality where they had the junior bolshevik censors at work neatly splicing the rounds together, and not one single word about anything unusual happening between the rounds. Angelo Dundee mucking about with Clay's glove and guys going out looking for a new glove all down the Orwellian Memory Hole!

I gotta get outa here. This place is like the twilight zone for f'ing ******s.

 

I suggest you watch the original kinescope of the first bout between Ali and Cooper.

While you are watching do us all a favor and time the rest periods and let us know how long each one ran.

At least do us all a favor and toe the line with all the other Brits who once their favorite myth was proven wrong they started harping on smelling salts.

He got a rematch to prove the first time was a fluke and it ended with the exact same result.

As if Henry Cooper was EVER going to beat Ali.

 

Yes, Dundee feeding Clay smelling salts was also illegal.

In Dundee's own words he said he observed the cut on Clay's glove early in the fight and "filed it away for future reference". He said, "how dare they accuse me of deliberately cutting his glove...I didn't cut it, I tore it."

When Clay was hurt and managed to stagger back to his corner Dundee tore the cut in the glove and then said they needed a new glove, and there was chaos in the ring, and finally no new glove could be found. It is unclear how much time transpired between those rounds because it seems that all the existing tapes have been doctored, like the deliberately deceptive one I saw on ESPN Classic. I saw the original years ago and I remember the chaos. I think that about 5 or 6 minutes transpired between the rounds, but even if it was only one additional second the record books need to be changed because no place in the rules does it make provisions for a hurt fighter to get any extra time between rounds, nor be given an illegal stimulant between rounds, nor have his corner man blatantly cheat, even if his name is Cassius Clay aka M. Ali. Cooper won that fight. The record books need to be changed. It is yet another one of Clay's spurious wins that he won by cheating.

 

Alonzo Johnson was just a club fighter weighing only 189. He had lost the previous 6 of his 8 fights, but he handily beat Clay-Ali. You can see that fight on Youtube, like the Jimmy Young scam, but it's been doctored too, tho not as blatantly as they doctored the Cooper fight. What they did, at least on the Youtube version that I saw, is cut it off abruptly at the end, but I remember what came after that, and what came after that was the announcers incredulously expostulating, "They gave it to Clay!".

 

I forgot Jimmy Young, another one, and a blatant one at that.

 

The Clay Cooper fight exists fairly commonly in its complete form and I hate to hurst your bubble but there is no five or six minute break between rounds.