Would Calzaghe have been "Hattoned" if he had stepped up like Ricky?

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  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Split decision over a 43 year old who knocked you down is something to brag about.
     
  2. james!

    james! CounterPuncher Full Member

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    Your hate towards brit fighters is awful.
    Your nothing but an awful troll.

    At this point id like to express my thanks to team elite for the savage and brutal beatdown they have given you in this thread. :happy:happy:happy
     
  3. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    The Legendary 46and0 returns
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    Cordial Salutations James, the Team Elite Corporation appreciates your support. What a superb post by yourself
     
  4. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You mean that kid telling me I have 0 vcash when in reality I had more than him?

    That's one hell of a savage internet beat down. Is team elite just a calslappy fan club or what?
     
  5. Bald_Toad

    Bald_Toad Ring Title Full Member

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    had Calzaghe stepped up and came to America, he would have been destroyed much like all of his fellow British countrymen
     
  6. james!

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    You seem awfully bothered by it, i was just saying, no need to start crying like a little girl over it.

    You hate brittish boxers, which means your not a fan of the sport which means your a disgrace. Take your hate elsewhere :patsch
     
  7. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't get me wrong, I like british boxers. But the fans make it really hard to respect them with their incessant nuthugging and delusion.

    P.S, who calls a post on the internet a "savage beatdown"? :rofl
     
  8. james!

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    p.s? :patsch what are you six?
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Forgetting Calzaghe was 36 at the time fighting at a new weight in a foreign country.

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    1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
    2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
    3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
    4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
    5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
    a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
    b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
    c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
    d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
    e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
    f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
    g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
    h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
    i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

    I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

    6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
    7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111 at that point in Hopkins career.
    8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
    9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.

    Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
    Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
    Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.

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    Anyway is it any better that a C Dawson of 29, has a NC with a 46 year old and only wins by a MD against a 47 year old. Is that more to brag about :oops:
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    :happy:happy:happy

    The King Returns
     
  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    In all seriousness (and I did have Hopkins winning 114-113), this was THE FIGHT that Calzaghe truly proved his mettle.

    And I think the key to Calzaghe is even more impressive than the reasons you stated. Calzaghe out-ADJUSTED Bernard! That's what he did. I could not believe it.

    He out-Hopkins'd Hopkins!

    What I love about that fight is you can see two guys thinking in there, playing a tactical chess game, and actually ad******g and counter-ad******g.

    You're right bailey. He did not just win on work rate. He found ways, various ways, to neutralize Hopkins outstanding right hand. He also made adjustments that helped him find the mark more, sometimes with an almost amateurish looking hook! But the reality is, it had SOMETHING to it, because it was tagging Bernard, the defensive wizard, with great regularity.

    Joe is also the only guy (*until the last fight with Dawson) I ever recall seeing outhustle and outwork Bernard during the championship rounds. I know Taylor won the 11th round big in his rematch with Hopkins, but other than that and the Dawson fight, I don't ever recall Hopkins losing a championship round off the top of my head.

    At the end of the day, I'm sure we'd disagree on our scorecard, but that's not the point.

    The point is Calzaghe was much better than given credit for in that fight and his career.

    While not a performance I see his hardcore fans often use as the benchmark of his greatness, that was the fight where he proved beyond a shadow of a doubt he was a hell of a fighter!.

    :smoke
     
  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Touching post Rumsfield and we can agree to disagree :rasta
     
  13. eminentair

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    Beating a prime Mikkel Kessler > than any of Andre Wards single wins
     
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