The 2 greatest HW'S in the Post Ali Era? Who's your 2?

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  1. FelixTrinidad

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    I respect all boxers and will briefly describe the 10 Candidates
    in the most non -bias and informative way possible.

    Who are the top 2 HW'S of the POST Ali Era?

    Remember Multiple Poll Option so you can pick TWO :D


    Candidate #1
    Lennox Lewis
    Undisputed Champion
    Only Modern HW to have retired with no unavenged defeats
    Beat every man he ever faced.

    Some Notable Wins
    Gary Mason- Huge under rated win for the young Lion.
    Lennox only had 15 fights and he fought a undefeated champion in
    Gary Mason. Lewis was a 15 fight novice and knocked Mason out.
    Most 15 fight prospects these days are fighting Mall Cops

    Razer Ruddock
    Took a semi prime Tyson to the deep end twice.
    Tyson said 'Ruddock punch like a mule kick'. Ruddock was the most feared
    puncher in the division and nobody outside of Tyson wanted him.
    Ruddock dominated Phil Jackson and Gary Page prior to the Lewis bout and was considered a favorite. Lennox knocked him out in 2 rounds and effectively ruined Ruddock's Career.


    Frank Bruno
    Lewis was behind on the cards, but like a true champion came back and knocked Bruno out.

    Dominated Tommy Morrison

    Forced to fight in a tiny ring against Prime Ray Mercer, and couldn't move at all, but still clearly won the fight 7-3, according to most boxing experts.
    Tough lil scrap, but Lewis prevailed.

    Andrew Golota
    Golota was the original Klitscho, strong, big, tough, and just came off
    back to back destruction beat downs of a semi prime Riddick Bowe.
    Lewis was a big under dog. Golota was the 'next big thing'. Lewis knocked Golota out in 40 seconds.

    Shannon Briggs
    Prime Briggs, Lewis slapped him around and knocked him out.
    Vitali 10 years later, couldn't knock old man river Briggs out, and went the distance.

    Holyfield-
    Dominated Holyfield. Won 10 Rounds to 2. Was robbed and the fight declared a draw.
    Beat him again, in less stellar fashion the 2nd time.
    Overall though Lewis won a total of 18/24 Rounds against Holyfield.

    Holyfield had several 'prime stretches'. Against Lewis, he wasn't in his full prime but still elite.

    Michael Grant-The next great hype. He was a 6'8 MONSTER, and HBO said he was the real deal. He was. He was big, he was strong, he was an athletic freak of nature. He carried all the hopes and futures of the American Heavyweight hope on his shoulders.
    Lennox almost broke his legs.
    George Foreman even said 'WOW, WOW LENNOX DONE BROKE HIS LEGS'

    Grant was ruined.


    David Tua- Massive Puncher, 2nd behind Tyson at the time. Surreal punching power. People said 'Tua's punches can kill you' and they could. Lewis toyed with him, winning 12-0. At the end, Lewis even made Tua hit the lamp post.


    Mike Tyson- Ok ya, Mike was beyond shot, but he still had surreal one punch KO Power. In fact, I say Mike's one punch KO Power when he was older is STRONGER then when he was younger. Nevertheless, I admit Mike was shot, but Lennox was old too.


    Vitali- Semi retired, old, fat,un motivated, and under trained Lennox Lewis lost the first 2 rounds to a Prime Vitali, but came back strong, ripped his face wide open, and had Vitali hanging on for dear life in the 6th after eating a old Lewis Upper cut (a prime Lewis would have followed that upper cut with a Roy Jones Jr like combo)

    Doctor saved Vitali's career and life, ended the fight.
    Tko6 of the '2nd best from the next era'



    Lennox had two losses.
    But realistically he had one.
    He made the count for Mc Call. The ref was corrupt, even HBO said
    the ref is corrupt. Lennox might have recovered, he might not have, but bottom line. He should have been given the chance.



    Rahman- Lewis was probably drugged.


    It don't matter. In the rematches, he made Mc Call cry and killed Rahman with beautiful 1-2 combo.

    Lennox avenged all his defeats. Like a true champion.


























    Candidate #2
    Wladimir Klitshcko
    He's good, was knocked out and down multiple times. But still came back.

    Candidate #3
    Larry Holmes
    Good fighter

    Candidate #4
    Evander Holyfield
    Good fighter, was caught for Peds

    Candidate #5
    Mike Tyson
    During his prime, he punched hella hard.

    Candidate #6

    Riddick Bowe
    Ducked Lewis, but still good fighter

    Candidate #7
    Tim Whiterspoon
    Good fighter

    Candidate #8
    Michael Spinks
    The Spinks, good fighter

    Candidate #9
    Vitali Klitscho, lost to an old lewis. Retired a year later.
    Came back and fought Sameul Peter.


    Candidate #10
    Other- Your choice
     
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  3. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Post Ali Era:
    Larry Holmes & Mike Tyson

    Post Tyson Era:
    Lennox Lewis & Wlad Klitschko
     
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  5. FelixTrinidad

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    There's no 'post Tyson era'

    There's only one 'post era'. The Ali one.
     
  6. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Sure there is... I just created it.
    (Too many years separate 'em)

    Enjoy the "Tyson Era"
     
  7. FelixTrinidad

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    If you are not trolling, can you please tell me when was the 'Tyson Era"

    From the time of Knocking out Spinks to Buster Douglas?
     
  8. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    I'd say from the time he first became a sensation '86 or so until he stopped being the PPV king... Top seller win/lose in the late 90's/early 2000's.
    :deal
     
  9. Cableaddict

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    Isn't the real question, "Tyson was #1, who was #2, Holmes or Wlad?"

    A question no one can answer, since neither man ever had the kind of challenges that would allow a decision to be made.
     
  10. turbotime

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    Awful picks so far.

    Holmes and Lennox, easily.

    Ali
    Louis
    Holmes
    Marciano
    Lewis

    Top 5 EVER
     
  11. FelixTrinidad

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    In your opinion does Larry Holmes have a much superior resume compare to Holyfield? That was what I was thinking about.
    Evander Holyfield had a pretty damn good resume.

    Of course his two wins over Dwight at CW, shouldn't really count for his HW Standings though:lol:
     
  12. FelixTrinidad

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    What challenges that Wlad and Holmes didn't have, did Tyson have?
    :think:think
     
  13. Hands of Iron

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    :rofl :good
     
  14. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson was great for slightly different reasons. He was so overwhelming, both offensively & defensively, that his lack of top competition in his prime can be somewhat overlooked. If you don't think a prime Tyson could beat a prime Holmes, then YDKSAB. :D

    I could see how some folks would put Lewis above Wlad. Again, because they value quality of opposition to boxing raw ability. I wouldn't argue, but personally I was never wowed by Lewis.
     
  15. FelixTrinidad

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    Oh if we going by that, for sure. I give you the Tyson Era.