Prime Oscar De la hoya vs 2007 Floyd Mayweather 147

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You also have to take into condidersation, that Oscar was desperate for a rematch. Now I didn't want to see one, and I think Floyd would have won a lot easier if they'd have fought again, but Floyd didn't want to know. Oscar was absolutely adament that he could beat Floyd, and he was desperate for another go. Floyd on the other hand, who's in the "cheque cashing business" refused point blank to give him one, and ended up retiring instead.

    The guy is obsessed with money, and it's not just for the cameras. He constantly talks about money, but he didn't want to cash Oscar's rematch cheque! Why would he retire when he could have made millions of dollars? He knew he'd had a scare against Oscar, and he had no intention of fighting him again.

    All these Floyd fanboys on here need to wake up, when comparing him with the likes of SRL and Tommy Hearns in fantasy fights etc. As if Floyd would ever have fought Tommy at 147. It's laughable!

    Regards, Loudon.
     
  2. turbotime

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    :good
     
  3. ripcity

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    Mayweather in a very close bout. Their real bout should not have come down to a split decision. This one could.
     
  4. ajackman1

    ajackman1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nonsense
     
  5. ajackman1

    ajackman1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bull**** , nobody cared to see a rematch, in fact if Floyd took the rematch he would get cruicifed by the fans and media for fighting an old man he already beat instead of fighting cotto or Margarito.
     
  6. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah, that's the truth brah. Like I said, ODLH was an "A" level fighter in his prime and proved it against other prime "A" level fighters. What "A" level fighter did Floyd ever fight/beat in their prime? None, which begs the question: Maybe he really isn't an "A" level fighter overall? To be in that category you should have to prove it against that type of prime opposition, which he has never done, he has only shown off his amazing skill-set vs "B" level opposition or shot and well past prime fighters.:good

    And that's just it, an amazing skill-set doesn't = "A" level fighter or ATG, it's just an amazing skilll-set.


    Prime ODLH wrecks prime Floyd.
     
  7. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fixed.
     
  8. Bladegunner

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    You do realise poll results don't actually reflect reality?

    Would be like saying who would win out of Ali or Lewis. A poll result don't make it true, just shows who people see as the favourite.
     
  9. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Obviously, but considering how in reality this fight can't take place all anybody can do is speculate.
     
  10. Doc

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    Oscar decision ..... easy work.
     
  11. Doc

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    One man owning machine :good
     
  12. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You do know that Floyd wasn't at his best weight when he fought Oscar? Why is this not taken into account? Floyd is not a 154 fighter.
     
  13. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can't and never will rank FMJ as an ATG for the same reasons as Calzaghe, I don't care if they both retire undefeated. The biggest reason they both likely retire undefeated is because they never fought the best or truly tested themselves, not because of their greatness. ****, their best wins are over shot to **** former greats.

    Floyd could have squared off against plenty of fighters that were great and prime or close to it, or very good fighters who weren't necessarily greats but would have posed significant matchup problems due to styles or other factors, but he never did. Of course he is going to look great fighting shot to **** fighters or "B" level fighters, but his refusal to fight the best is far more telling about his ability and what he thought of it than fighting boxers not in his class.

    ODLH fought the best and tested himself on numerous occasions. He didn't retire undefeated but at least he tested himself against the best and in his prime always gave a great account of himself. That's what makes him great. Floyd and Calzaghe are more posers than anything.
     
  14. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Neither was Oscar. What did it even matter at that point, ODLH was shot to **** by that point anyways, he wasn't even a shell of his former self by that point.

    Is Oscar the naturally bigger man? Yea, but this isn't a p4p question, it's a h2h question. In the hypothetical matchup or whatever, Oscar is always going to be the bigger guy, and that WOULD play a factor. But like I said earlier, what is most telling is the fact that Oscar ripped 5 rounds from Floyd who was damn near prime, while Oscar himself was WAY past it. Oscar isn't going to do worse against this dude in his prime:lol: like all these dudes are claiming, that's ****ing ******ed. If he could take 5 rounds off Floyd in the state he was in when they did fight, then he is definitely taking an easy decision or knocking Floyd out in his prime.
     
  15. Asterion

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    De la Hoya was a very good welterweight. The best of his generation. Better than Tito, better than Mosley. And a better welterweight than Floyd.