How Over-Rated Is FREDDIE ROACH????

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  1. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vote & Discuss
     
  2. brnxhands

    brnxhands Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think people overrate trainers in general. If somebody has the goods they have the goods. A lot of great fighters seek him out an stay with him so he must be doing something right.
     
  3. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you ask me he's one of the most over rated trainers in the history of boxing....

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8T0LpIjG68[/ame]

    this video explains everything.. but if you don't feel like watching or is a freddie roach dick sucker.... let me break it down for you quickly...


    waits for JMM to get old x 2
    asks shane to fight at 143
    gets ODLH down to 147 (first fight at 147 in 8 years)
    gets cotto down to 143

    and it started wayyyyyyy before pac @ 147




    but besides his episodes with pac he's getting exposed with his other fighters also..... kayode & kahn..... dudes a fraud
     
  4. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Hes overrated to a degree.

    But not as overrated as Floyd Sr was some years ago.

    When you have so many fighters to juggle its hard to keep them all at the top not to mention theres flaws like having a bad chin that a trainer cant do nothing about he can give you a game plan to allow you to be effective and keep your chin protected but if you dont listen to what he says and want to make an example of somebody and put yourself at risk ala Khan vs Garcia you might end up getting stopped like Khan did and you cant blame a trainer if a fighter doesnt follow what he says.

    And BTW Roach>SR>Uncle Rog.
     
  5. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    watch the video i just posted... youll get it... he exposes himself with his own words
     
  6. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    ^This. In the end it's the Fighter that goes out there & executes the gameplan, The trainer can only teach him & remind him.
     
  7. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    still with that said freddie roach is still over rated as a trainer
     
  8. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    True that.

    How can we know How good a trainer like lets say Uncle Rog is when he inherited one of the biggest talents in the sport from his brother and all he has to do is keeping him sharp which Floyd himself makes sure of that and could basically train himself or have anyone else in his corner and have the same results.
     
  9. randy brown

    randy brown $$$ Full Member

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    the hype that poochiao and king con have brought are what made him overrated
     
  10. polowear28

    polowear28 Active Member Full Member

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    This question is overrated.
     
  11. Porgeous Porge

    Porgeous Porge Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i think he is an elite trainer but like others said trainers get over rated too much

    one thing i will add is who has Roach trained from the ground up

    Khan already good when Roach got him

    Pacquiao was already very good when Roach got him

    i mean i think its tougher to go ground up then fix a few flaws that have already been revealed from a guy whose already good
     
  12. markclow

    markclow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can't help but notice the sp550i Floyd lover agenda above. :tired


    He's obviously a great trainer, despite what Floyd loving mongoloids write.


    However trainers and fighters have styles and they should match.


    Roach fits good with very aggressive fighters who can take a punch.

    Manny fits good with technical boxers who want a well-prepared defense.

    etc...
     
  13. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Linares knows best

    Went with roach by default because of the brand name and paid dearly for it
     
  14. Blackness

    Blackness Danny Garcia Beat You... Full Member

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    I think benefitted from Ariza Shakes. I think the true genius is Ariza.
     
  15. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    pac don't have nothing to do with roach **** sucker...


    roach is over rated as linares trainer (2 brutal tkos)
    roach is over rated as kahn trainer (just brutally lost stupidly)
    roach is over rated as payotes trainer ( a draw to the milk dud)



    see through the blinders