Lineage of the coloured heavyweight title

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  1. Ringrat

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    Sounds probable to me too.:good

    Don't know how Sam Langford and Iron Hague could fight for the Coloured heavyweight title since Hague was white. Some did regard this as being for the vacant Empire championship, although Sam never showed interest in defending it, and Tommy Burns still had some claim to it.

    For an extended period of time beginning during 1912, mixed matches between races were banned in many parts of Canada and the USA. This, and the fact that Jack Johnson drew his own colour line, led to the re-establishment of the Coloured heavyweight Championship.



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  2. mattdonnellon

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    The manager of Sam MCVey, William Roche commisioned a diamond belt at a claimed value of $250 in November 1903.
     
  3. Totomabs

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    great, great post janitor
     
  4. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is what I came up with a while back:

    'COLORED' & BLACK HEAVYWEIGHT TITLES


    1849 Daniel Knox was described by the New York Clipper as the “Colored Champion,” and was allowed to fight only Black opponents.

    1876 Charles C. Smith “The Black Thunderbolt” claims the title after offering to take on all comers.

    Sept. 13, 1880
    Ben Smith WTKO3 Louis Leard; Pelham Station Alabama
    Smith; Alabama Coloured Champion challenged all Negro's to fight for his belt

    Jan 14, 1881 Prof. (Professor) Charles Hadley W3 Morris Grant, New York, NY
    Sep, 1881 George Godfrey claims title when, after stripping to fight John L Sullivan , the Heavyweight Champion refused to fight.

    Apr 6, 1882 (Professor) Charles Hadley KO2 Morris Grant, New York, NY
    Dec 7, 1882 (Professor) Charles Hadley KO3 Morris Grant, New York, NY


    Jan 10, 1883 (Professor) Charles Hadley KO2 Harry Woodson, New York, NY

    Friday 23rd February 1883
    Boston, Massachusetts
    George Godfrey W (Professor) Charles Hadley KO 6
    Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title
    2oz gloves were used

    Sunday 1st July 1883
    New York, New York
    (Professor) Charles Hadley W Harry Woodson PTS
    Date Uncertain (Black Heavyweight Championship)

    Saturday 10th May 1884

    Boston, Massachusetts
    George Godfrey D McHenry Johnson TD 4
    Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title
    Police stopped the fight after Johnson was floored
    The fight in the Crib Club Boston, Mass. USA was billed as fight to a finish to decide the 'coloured' title; police stopped it after Godfrey was well on top.

    Wednesday 25th January 1888
    Bloomfield, Colorado
    George Godfrey W McHenry Johnson KO 4
    Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title
    The decision of the referee was later reversed by the club's directors and Godfrey was awarded the winner's share of the purse, he had originally been disqualified. Godfrey knocked down Johnson in the fourth and the latter and his seconds claimed foul. Initially, the referee ruled the bout in Johnson’s favor, but the club eventually changed the ruling.

    Friday 24th August 1888
    California Athletic Club, San Francisco, California
    Heavyweight Peter Jackson W George Godfrey TKO 19
    Billed for the 'coloured' Heavyweight title
    Jackson never defended the title and it lapsed for close to eight years.

    Cyberboxingzone - Peter Jackson won the coloured title by defeating George Godfrey in August 1888 and did not defend again officially, but he retained the Lineal Coloured championship and retained that title against quality opposition (including Jim Corbett) until he ran into a young fighter by the name of none other than James Jeffries. This happened in March 1898. Jeffries knocked him out in the third round and with that win, became the Lineal Coloured champion. In 1896, the coloured championship had been awarded to Bob Armstrong (by the chart in this thread) although a political decision (jackson was still lineal), Bob Armstrong was a sparring partner and in fact in 1898 lost a decision to, You guessed it James J Jeffries. There was one other claimant, because Armstrong actually lost his title to Frank Childs. There is one disputed newspaper report claim that has James Jeffries defeating Frank Childs early in his career. It is also noted that Childs was beaten later on by Joe Choynski who couldnt win the World Title. In any case, Childs dropped the lineal title to George Byers who then went undefeated until losing to Tommy West. Interestingly, Byers also had losses to future title challenger Jack Root.

    All in all, there isn’t really any argument that Jim Jeffries wasn’t the best fighter in the world when he won his world championship. In reality, he was as close to being lineal and undisputed as anyone ever has been or could be. In fact, you may be able to create an argument (if you are using the theory in the post above) that James J Jeffries was in fact the first ever undisputed champion.

    Nov. 11, 1896
    The 'Mirror of Life' stated That Peter Jackson was Heavyweight Champion of the World.

    Monday 21st December 1896
    Broadway A.C., New York, New York
    Bob Armstrong W Charley Strong KO 19
    Billed for the vacant 'colored' Heavyweight title

    Saturday 6th March 1897
    Broadway A.C., Brooklyn, New York
    Bob Armstrong W Joe Butler TKO 6
    Referee: Dick Roche
    Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title

    Saturday 29th January 1898
    Chicago A.A., Chicago, Illinois
    Frank Childs W Bob Armstrong KO 2
    Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title

    Saturday 26th February 1898

    Chicago, Illinois
    Frank Childs W John (Klondike) Haines DQ 3
    Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title. Fight appears in Childs's record in Nelse Innes's RING RECORD, No. 6, but not reported in the Chicago Tribune.

    March 23, 1898
    The 'Mirror of Life' stated Peter Jackson is now a physical wreck and should not be allowed to fight

    Thursday 2nd June 1898
    Chicago, Illinois
    Charley Strong D Frank Childs PTS 6
    Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title


    Wednesday 14th September 1898
    Lenox AC, New York, New York
    George Byers 165 W Frank Childs PTS 20
    Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title

    Saturday 4th March 1899
    Stag A.C., Cincinnati, Ohio
    Heavyweight
    Frank Childs W Bob Armstrong TKO 6
    Colored World Heavyweight Title

    Monday 8th May 1899 (Other sources have May 6, 1899)

    Howard Theater, Chicago, Illinois
    John (Klondike) Haines W Jack Johnson TKO 5
    Haines claimed 'black' Heavyweight title. Date of May 8 reported in the Chicago Tribune.
    Other sources say that Klondike never claimed the Title, he was only 165 pounds.

    July 24,1899 George Byers KO9 Charley Strong, Brooklyn, NY

    Friday 11th August 1899
    Chicago, Illinois
    Frank Childs W John (Klondike) Haines PTS 6
    Childs claims Haines 'black' Heavyweight title

    Saturday 28th October 1899
    Chicago, Illinois
    Frank Childs W John (Klondike) Haines KO 3
    Childs defends 'black' Heavyweight title

    Friday 16th March 1900
    Star AC, Chicago, Illinois
    Frank Childs D George Byers PTS 6
    Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title
    Childs defends 'black' Heavyweight title

    Saturday 15th December 1900
    Chicago, Illinois
    Frank Childs W Joe Butler KO 6
    Childs defends 'black' Heavyweight title

    Saturday 16th March 1901
    Hot Springs, Arkansas
    Frank Childs W George Byers KO 17
    Billed for the 'colored' Heavyweight title

    Monday 24th February 1902
    American A.C., Chicago, Illinois
    Denver Ed Martin W Frank Childs PTS 6
    Martin wins world 'colored' heavyweight title




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  5. hhascup

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    Friday 25th July 1902
    London, England (Crystal Palace, Sydenham)
    Denver Ed Martin W Bob Armstrong PTS 15
    Martin defends world 'colored' heavyweight title
    "Martin proved the cleverer and never gave his opponent a chance, being declared an easy winner on points at the close of the fifteenth round; Martin, it is announced, will challenge the winner of the Jeffries-Fitzsimmons fight in San Francsico." (Associated Press) Referee was Tom Scott and Martin weighed 186, Armstrong 196

    Saturday 16th August 1902
    Newcastle, England
    Denver Ed Martin W Frank Craig TKO 3
    Martin defends world 'colored' heavyweight title

    Saturday 30th August 1902
    Newcastle, England
    Denver Ed Martin W Frank Craig KO 4
    Martin defends world 'colored' heavyweight title

    Tuesday 21st October 1902
    Hazard's Pavilion, Los Angeles, California
    Heavyweight
    Jack Johnson W Frank Childs TKO 12
    Childs loses his claim as world 'colored' heavyweight champion; Childs's seconds claimed he dislocated his elbow

    Wednesday 10th December 1902
    Penn Art Club, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    Heavyweight
    Denver Ed Martin NC Bob Armstrong ND 6
    Martin defends world 'colored' heavyweight title
    "The bout was fast from the start and both men narrowly escaped a knockout. The bell saved Armstrong in the third and fifth and Martin was floored six times in the fourth round." (Daily Gazette and Bulletin)
    Some sources report this bout held 12/11/02.

    Thursday 5th February 1903
    Hazard's Pavilion, Los Angeles, California
    Jack Johnson W Denver Ed Martin PTS 20
    Johnson wins world 'colored' heavyweight title

    Thursday 26th February 1903
    Hazard's Pavilion, Los Angeles, California
    Jack Johnson W Sam McVea PTS 20
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title

    Monday 11th May 1903
    Washington S.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    Jack Johnson W Joe Butler KO 3
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title

    Tuesday 27th October 1903
    Hazard's Pavilion, Los Angeles, California
    Jack Johnson W Sam McVea PTS 20
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title

    Monday 15th February 1904
    Lenox A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    Jack Johnson W Black Bill NWS 6
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title
    Newspaper decision as reported in the Philadelphia Item.

    Friday 22nd April 1904
    San Francisco, California
    Jack Johnson W Sam McVea KO 20
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title

    Thursday 2nd June 1904
    Chicago, Illinois
    Jack Johnson W Frank Childs PTS 6
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title

    Tuesday 18th October 1904
    Hazard's Pavilion, Los Angeles, California
    Jack Johnson W Denver Ed Martin KO 2
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title

    Tuesday 2nd May 1905
    Knickerbocker A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    Jack Johnson W Black Bill KO 4
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title
    Claude Brooks used the name "Black Bill"

    Tuesday 9th May 1905
    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    Jack Johnson W Walter Johnson KO 3
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title
    Jack Johnson NC Joe Jeannette ND 3
    Record indicates Johnson fought Jeannette and Johnson on the same day.

    Saturday 25th November 1905
    National A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    Jack Johnson L Joe Jeannette DQ 2
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title. Although losing Johnson still claimed the title because he was disqualified

    Friday 1st December 1905
    Eureka A.C., Baltimore, Maryland
    Jack Johnson NC Young Peter Jackson ND 12
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title
    "At its conclusion no decision was given. Johnson had undertaken to knock Jackson out within twelve rounds or take the smaller end of the receipts. He failed to do so." (Durango Democrat)

    Saturday 2nd December 1905
    National A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    Jack Johnson NC Joe Jeannette ND (W)6
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title

    Tuesday 16th January 1906
    Sharkey A.C., New York, New York
    Jack Johnson W Joe Jeannette NWS 3
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title. (Boston Globe)

    Wednesday 14th March 1906
    Baltimore, Maryland
    Jack Johnson W Joe Jeannette PTS 15
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title

    Thursday 26th April 1906
    Lincoln A.C., Chelsea, Massachusetts
    Jack Johnson 185 W Sam Langford 156 PTS 15
    Referee: Martin Flaherty
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title - Langford knocked down twice.
     
  6. hhascup

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    Thursday 20th September 1906
    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    Jack Johnson NC Joe Jeannette ND 6
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title

    Monday 26th November 1906
    Portland, Maine
    Jack Johnson D Joe Jeannette PTS 10
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title

    Tuesday 19th February 1907
    Gaiety Athletic Hall, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
    Jack Johnson W Peter Felix KO 10
    Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title

    1908 Jack Johnson wins world heavyweight title in December.

    Feb 20,1909 Sam McVea W20 Joe Jeannette, Paris, FR
    Apr 9, 1909 Sam McVea KO2 Cyclone Billy ******, Paris, FR
    Apr 17, 1909 Joe Jeannette KO49 Sam McVea, Paris, FR
    ---Sam Langford claims title after Johnson refuses to face him for the world title.

    Tuesday 13th July 1909
    Bijou Theater, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Sam Langford W John (Klondike) Haines NWS 6
    Langford claims World 'colored' Heavyweight title after Jack Johnson refuses to meet him. Langford reported to have had the better of fight by Pittsburgh Post.

    Tuesday 28th September 1909
    Armory, Boston, Massachusetts
    Sam Langford W Dixie Kid TKO 5
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Tuesday 2nd November 1909
    Armory, Boston, Massachusetts
    Sam Langford W John (Klondike) Haines KO 2
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Dec 11,1909 Joe Jeanette D30 Sam McVey, Paris, FR

    Monday 10th January 1910
    Memphis, Tennessee
    Sam Langford W Dixie Kid KO 3
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Saturday 14th May 1910
    National A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    Sam Langford W Battling Jim Johnson NWS 6
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    Langford "had things practically all his own way." (Washington Post)

    Tuesday 6th September 1910
    Armory A.C., Boston, Massachusetts
    Sam Langford W Joe Jeannette PTS 15
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Thursday 10th November 1910
    Joplin, Missouri
    Heavyweight
    Sam Langford W Jeff Clark KO 2
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    "Sam Langford won over Jeff Clark of Joplin in the second round of what was to have been a ten-round bout here tonight. The fight was stopped when Clark was all but out. Before he would fight Langford insisted that the ring be reduced to sixteen feet square. From the tap of the gong Langford rushed, showering short jabs to the body. The force of his onslaught rendered Clark powerless and he was knocked to the floor for the count of eight three times in the first round. He came back gamely, but after two minutes of the second round, after he had gone down twice, the referee stopped the fight, giving Langford the decision." (Indianapolis Star)


    Tuesday 6th December 1910
    Armory, Boston, Massachusetts
    Sam Langford W Morris Harris KO 2
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Tuesday 10th January 1911
    Armory A.A., Boston, Massachusetts
    Sam Langford W Joe Jeannette PTS 12
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    "Langford had a decisive lead in every round but one and in the first round dropped Jeannette for a count of eight." (Elbert County Banner)

    Saturday 1st April 1911
    Paris, France
    Sam Langford D Sam McVea PTS 20
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim


    Tuesday 5th September 1911
    Madison Square Garden, New York, New York
    Sam Langford W Joe Jeannette NWS 10
    Langford won the newspaper decision according to the New York Times. Jeanette was knocked down in the 1st, 4th, and 10th rounds.
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Tuesday 26th December 1911
    Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
    Sam McVea W Sam Langford PTS20
    Langford loses world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Monday 8th April 1912
    Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
    Sam Langford W Sam McVea PTS 20
    Australian Heavyweight Title
    Langford regains world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Saturday 3rd August 1912
    Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
    Sam Langford W Sam McVea PTS 20
    Australian Heavyweight Title ~
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Wednesday 9th October 1912
    Perth, Australia
    Sam Langford W Sam McVea TKO 11
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    McVey claimed a foul. This was not allowed and he refused to continue.

    Thursday 26th December 1912
    Sydney Stadium, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
    Sam Langford W Sam McVea KO 13
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Monday 24th March 1913
    Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
    Sam Langford D Sam McVea PTS 20
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Tuesday 9th September 1913
    Atlantic Gardens A.C., New York, New York
    Heavyweight
    Sam Langford 185 W John Lester Johnson 170 KO 11
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim.
    At the gong, Johnson began prancing and stamping around the ring like a horse with the blind staggers. Langford was compelled to take long-distance swings and the only place he could reach was his opponents left kidney, which he did until Johnson went down.

    Friday 3rd October 1913
    Madison Square Garden, New York, New York
    Sam Langford 199¼ D Joe Jeannette NWS10
    Referee: Billy Joh
    Newspaper decision was a draw according to the New York Times. It was felt that Langford was badly out of shape. Atlanta Constitution reported Jeannette winning
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Saturday 20th December 1913
    Luna Park, Paris, France
    Sam Langford W Joe Jeannette PTS 20
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Monday 23 March 1914
    National S.C., New York, New York
    Sam Langford W Bill Watkins TKO-1
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim.

    Friday 27th March 1914
    Empire A.C., New York, New York
    Sam Langford 200 W Battling Jim Johnson 226 NWS 10
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    Langford "won by a wide margin" when Johnson "failed to show anything remotely resembling championship ability" (New York Times)

    Wednesday 15th April 1914
    Chattanooga, Tennessee
    Sam Langford W George Kid Cotton PTS 8
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Friday 1st May 1914
    New Orleans, Louisiana
    Sam Langford D Harry Wills NWS10
    Newspaper decision was a draw
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Thursday 26th November 1914
    Vernon, California
    Heavyweight
    Sam Langford W Harry Wills KO14
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    "With a left swing to the jaw, Sam Langford of Boston knocked out Harry Wills, the giant New Orleans negro, in the fourteenth round of a scheduled twenty-round fight this afternoon at Vernon. Both men were knocked down repeatedly, Langford himself taking the count four times in the first two rounds. Langford early in the fight hurt his left ankle as he fell to the mat in a vicious breakaway. Wills' effective straight-arm drives gave him an apparent even break in most of the rounds, but Langford fought with a superior knowledge of the game that gradually wore out Wills. As the soreness left Langford's injured ankle, his footwork improved and the twelfth, thirteenth and fourteenth rounds showed Langford winning. His speed, judgment and force then enabled him to play with Wills. The final swing was delivered after a torrent of blows had left Wills staggering." (Indianapolis Star)

    Tuesday 6th April 1915
    35th Street A.C., New York, New York
    Sam Langford 195 D Battling Jim Johnson 224 NWS 10
    Newspaper decision was a draw according to the New York Times
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Tuesday 13th April 1915
    Boston, Massachusetts
    Heavyweight
    Joe Jeannette W Sam Langford PTS 12
    Langford loses world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Tuesday 27th April 1915
    Boston, Massachusetts
    Joe Jeannette D Sam McVea PTS 12
    Jeannette defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Tuesday 29th June 1915
    Atlas A.A., Boston, Massachusetts
    Sam McVea W Sam Langford PTS 12
    McVey wins a version of World 'colored' Heavyweight title

    Tuesday 7th September 1915
    Boston, Massachusetts
    Harry Wills W Sam McVea PTS 12
    McVey loses his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Friday 3rd December 1915
    Harlem S.C., New York, New York
    Harry Wills 205 W Sam Langford 195 NWS 10
    Wills easily won the newspaper decision, per the New York Times
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Monday 3rd January 1916
    New Orleans, Louisiana
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills W Sam Langford PTS 20
    Referee: Tommy Burns
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Friday 11th February 1916
    New Orleans, Louisiana
    Heavyweight
    Sam Langford W Harry Wills KO 19
    Wills loses his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    "Sam Langford knocked out Harry Wills in the 19th round of a scheduled twenty-round go at a local arena last night. Until the knockout blow neither fighter seemed to have the advantage." (Reno Evening Gazette)
     
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    Thursday 17th February 1916
    Madison Square Garden, New York, New York
    Heavyweight
    Sam Langford 193 D Sam McVea 212 NWS 10
    Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim.
    New York Times

    Saturday 26th February 1916
    Montreal, Quebec
    Joe Jeannette W Silas Green KO 6
    Jeannette defends his world 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Monday 28th February 1916
    Long Acre A.A., New York, New York
    Sam Langford W Cleve Hawkins NWS 10
    Langford easily won the newspaper decision, per the New York Times. Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Tuesday 7th March 1916
    Broadway S.C., Brooklyn, New York
    Harry Wills W Sam Langford NWS 10
    Wills easily won the newspaper decision, per the New York Times. Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Wednesday 22nd March 1916
    Syracuse, New York
    Sam Langford W Dave Mills TKO 2
    Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Friday 31st March 1916
    St. Louis, Missouri
    Heavyweight
    Sam Langford 190 W Jeff Clark 175 TKO 5
    Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    "Sam Langford drove his right hand against Jeff Clark's jaw in the fifth round of their scheduled 10 round bout here last night. Clarke's second carried him away." (Sandusky Star Journal)

    Friday 7th April 1916
    Syracuse, New York
    Heavyweight
    Sam McVea D Sam Langford NWS 10
    Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    Newspaper draw. (Sandusky Star Journal)

    Tuesday 25th April 1916
    St. Louis, Missouri
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills W Sam Langford NWS 8
    Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    Wills won the newspaper decision. (Nevada State Journal)



    Tuesday 2nd May 1916
    East Market St. Rink, Akron, Ohio
    Sam Langford NC Sam McVea ND 12
    Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Friday 12th May 1916
    Arena, Syracuse, New York
    Sam Langford W Joe Jeannette KO 7
    Langford wins undisputed world 'colored' heavyweight title

    Saturday 12th August 1916
    Teatro Roma, Avellaneda, Buenos Aires
    Heavyweight
    Sam Langford D Sam McVea PTS 20
    Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    Controversial Decision

    Thursday 30th November 1916
    Syracuse, New York
    Heavyweight
    Sam Langford 198 D Bill Tate 226 NWS 10
    Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim. The Syracuse Herald gave it to Langford, but the Syracuse Post-Standard gave it to Tate. Either way it was a very close fight.

    Tuesday 12th December 1916
    St. Louis, Missouri
    Sam Langford W Battling Jim Johnson KO 12
    Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Monday 1st January 1917
    Kansas City, Missouri
    Sam Langford W Battling Jim Johnson PTS12
    Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Thursday 25th January 1917
    Kansas City, Missouri
    Heavyweight
    Bill Tate W Sam Langford PTS 12
    Langford loses his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Tuesday 1st May 1917
    St. Louis, Missouri
    Heavyweight
    Sam Langford W Bill Tate KO 5
    Langford regains his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Friday 11th May 1917
    Cambria A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    Heavyweight
    Sam Langford D Harry Wills NWS 6
    Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    (Chicago Tribune)

    Friday 14th September 1917
    Toledo, Ohio
    Heavyweight
    Sam Langford W Joe Jeannette NWS 12
    Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    (Chicago Tribune)

    Thursday 20th September 1917
    Brooklyn, New York
    Heavyweight
    Sam Langford L Harry Wills NWS 10
    Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    Wills won the newspaper decision. (Warren Evening Mirror)

    Monday 12th November 1917
    Coliseum, Toledo, Ohio
    Heavyweight
    Sam Langford L Harry Wills NWS 12
    Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    Wills won the newspaper decision. (Decatur Review)

    Monday 17th December 1917
    Stockyards Stadium, Denver, Colorado
    Heavyweight
    Sam Langford W Kid Norfolk KO2
    Langford defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    Norfolk down 3 times in 2d

    Sunday 14th April 1918
    Panama City
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills W Sam Langford KO 6
    Langford loses his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Sunday 19th May 1918
    Panama City Heavyweight
    Harry Wills W Sam Langford TKO 7
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Monday 19th August 1918
    Atlantic City, New Jersey
    Harry Wills W Jeff Clark TKO 5
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Saturday 14th September 1918
    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    Harry Wills NC Jack Thompson ND 6
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim





    Tuesday 10th June 1919
    Jersey City, New Jersey
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills W John Lester Johnson NWS 8
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    Wills won the newspaper decision. (Bridgeport Standard Telegram)

    Friday 4th July 1919
    St. Louis, Missouri
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills W Sam Langford W NWS 8
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    Wills won the newspaper decision. (Decatur Review)

    Monday 18th August 1919
    Arena, Syracuse, New York
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills W Jeff Clark TKO 4
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Tuesday 30th September 1919
    Arena, Syracuse, New York
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills NC Sam Langford ND 10
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    The Syracuse Herald reported that it was a very disappointing fight and that it wasn't important 'whether Wills won or Langford won or it was a draw.' It did report that Langford's eye was closed and his mouth cut at the end, while Wills only suffered a damaged reputation.

    Monday 20th October 1919
    Fourth Regiment Armory, Jersey City, New Jersey
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills W Joe Jeannette NWS 8
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    Wills won the newspaper decision. (Newark Advocate)

    Wednesday 5th November 1919
    Tulsa, Oklahoma
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills W Sam Langford PTS15
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Thursday 1st January 1920
    Coliseum, San Francisco, California
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills NC Jack Thompson NC 3
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    After their loudly booed perfrormance, both fighters purses were withheld by the promoters

    Monday 12th January 1920
    Tulsa, Oklahoma
    Harry Wills W Jack Thompson PTS 15
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Wednesday 17th March 1920
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Harry Wills W Andrew Johnson KO 1
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    This bout lasted 42 seconds. Wills hit Johnson once and Johnson hit the floor twice. Johnson went down, got up, went down--and then stayed down.Vancouver Daily World


    Friday 23rd April 1920
    Stockyard Stadium, Denver, Colorado
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills W Sam Langford PTS 15
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    "The once mighty Sam Langford was led to an awful slaughter by Harry Wills of New Orleans at Denver Friday night. Altho the Tarbaby was not disgraced, gamely surviving four knockdowns in the first round, and by superb ring generalship lasting the fifteen-round limit. The two blacks were fighting on even terms on the finish, but the referee's decision easily went to Wills." (Evening State Journal)
    Also incorrectly reported as occurring April 19.
    Wills is generally regarded by all as the leading black heavyweight in the world. He holds the “title” of colored champion until his loss at the hands of Jack Sharkey in October of 1926.

    Wednesday 8th September 1920
    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    Harry Wills NC Sam McVea NC 6
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim
    The referee stopped the bout, claiming the two were stalling. Both boxers then were barred from boxing again in Philadelphia.
     
  8. hhascup

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    Monday 17th January 1921
    Broadway Auditorium, Buffalo, New York
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills 210 W Bill Tate 230 KO2
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Friday 11th February 1921
    Baltimore, Maryland
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills W Jeff Clark KO 2
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Friday 27th May 1921
    Broadway Arena, Brooklyn, New York
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills 211 W Andrew Johnson 212½ KO 10
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Saturday 2nd July 1921
    Queensboro Stadium, Long Island City, New York
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills 214 W Bill Tate 243 TKO 6
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Friday 18th November 1921
    Arena, Milwaukie, Oregon
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills W Denver Ed Martin KO1 Time: 2:05 ~
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim. Martin was down six times

    Wednesday 30th November 1921
    Denver, Colorado
    Harry Wills NC Jack Thompson NC 5
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim.
    The referee stopped the fight without rendering a decision after Thompson fell to the floor claiming a foul had been committed.

    Wednesday 7th December 1921
    Denver, Colorado
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills W Bill Tate PTS 12
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Monday 2nd January 1922
    Arena, Milwaukie, Oregon
    Promoter: George Moore
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills L Bill Tate DQ 1
    Referee: Tom Louttit
    Wills was disqualified for knocking Tate down after the referee's call to break; Both fighters agreed to a rematch four days later, at no cost to the fans.
    Tate claims the Black Heavyweight Title.

    Friday 6th January 1922
    Arena, Milwaukie, Oregon
    Promoter: George Moore
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills D Bill Tate PTS 10
    Both fighters claimed the Black Heavyweight title in this bout. Wills bled from a cut over his right eye from the 5th round on. Wills was knocked down for no count in the 9th from a rabbit punch.
    (Both fought without pay because of that Monday night fiasco four days previous.)

    Tuesday 17th January 1922
    Arena, Milwaukie, Oregon
    Harry Wills W Sam Langford PTS 10
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim


    Thursday 29th June 1922
    Trenton, New Jersey
    Harry Wills 211 W Jeff Clark 193 KO 2
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Monday 17th July 1922
    Winnipeg, Manitoba
    Harry Wills W Jeff Clark KO 3
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Monday 21st August 1922
    Broad A.C., Newark, New Jersey
    Harry Wills 215 W Buddy Jackson 194 KO 2 Time: 2:14
    Referee: Harry McCoy
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Tuesday 29th August 1922
    Ebbets Field, Brooklyn, New York
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills W Tut Jackson KO 3
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Friday 29th September 1922
    Madison Square Garden, New York, New York
    Harry Wills 213¾ W Clem Johnson 204 TKO12 Time: 1:55
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Monday 5th November 1923
    Newark, New Jersey
    Heavyweight
    Harry Wills W Jack Thompson TKO 4
    Wills defends his World 'colored' heavyweight title claim

    Nov 8, 1926 George Godfrey KO6 Larry Gains, Buffalo, NY
    Nov 22, 1926 George Godfrey D10 Bearcat Wright, Portland, OR

    Jul 5, 1927 George Godfrey KO7 Neil Clisby, Los Angeles, CA
    Nov 20, 1927 George Godfrey KO1 Clem Johnson, Atlantic City, NJ

    Aug 15, 1928 Larry Gains WF3 George Godfrey, Toronto, Can
    -Billed as a championship affair---Gaines never made any real claim to the title. He left to campaign in Europe and Godfrey remained recognized as the colored champion.

    Dec 19, 1930 George Godfrey D10 Bearcat Wright, Atlantic City, NJ
    -Billed as for the American Black Title

    Aug 24, 1931 George Godfrey KO2 Seal Harris, Toronto, Can

    Sep 5,1932 George Godfrey KO5 Roy (Ace) Clark, Laredo, TX

    Jan 31, 1933 George Godfrey W10 Tiger Jack Fox, Indianapolis, IN
    Mar 10, 1933 George Godfrey NC6 Bearcat Wright, Kansas City, MO
    Oct 9, 1933 Obie Walker W10 George Godfrey, Philadelphia, PA

    Jul 20, 1935 Larry Gains W15 Obie Walker, Leicester, Eng
     
  9. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That is, despite getting knocked out by Godfrey, Hadley retained his claim for the title? I didn't see any mention of Godfrey-Hadley fight billed for any title, in the clipping of the fight I have.
     
  10. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So, Jack Johnson was the Lineal coloured champion when he lost to Willard, but this couldnt have been a title match for obvious reasons. So, did Jack end up losing the lineal coloured championship?
     
  11. hhascup

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    Sam Langford claimed the Title after Johnson refused to box him. Sam McVea also claimed the Title for the same reason and he lost to Jeannette who in turn lost to Langford.

    1908 Jack Johnson wins world heavyweight title in December.

    Feb 20,1909 Sam McVea W20 Joe Jeannette, Paris, FR
    Apr 9, 1909 Sam McVea KO2 Cyclone Billy Warren, Paris, FR
    Apr 17, 1909 Joe Jeannette KO49 Sam McVea, Paris, FR
    ---Sam Langford claims title after Johnson refuses to face him for the world title.

    Tuesday 13th July 1909
    Bijou Theater, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
    Sam Langford W John (Klondike) Haines NWS 6
    Langford claims World 'colored' Heavyweight title after Jack Johnson refuses to meet him. Langford reported to have had the better of fight by Pittsburgh Post.

    Tuesday 6th September 1910
    Armory A.C., Boston, Massachusetts
    Sam Langford W Joe Jeannette PTS 15
    Langford defends world 'colored' heavyweight title claim
     
  12. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Welcome to the board Hhascup! I can see you will be a fine addition.

    By chance is there a picture of the colored title belt? I read it was leather with diamonds.
     
  13. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for that, but

    Sam Langford may have "claimed" it, but you cannot "claim" a lineal title. This means that Johnson retained the lineal title (in the same way that George Foreman retained the lineal World title) when he refused to fight no1 contenders or when Spinks maintained the lineal title until he lost to Tyson, or Ali, until he lost to Frazier.

    When Johnson lost to Willard, he did not lose a fight for 11 years. That is an amazing record, when you think about it. His next loss was to Fighting Bob Lawson. I guess the question here is does 'fighting' Bob Lawson qualify for the coloured heavyweight championship. And if he does, doe this mean that he holds the lineal title until he meets George Godfrey, or Is bob lawsons record different to what is on boxrec.
     
  14. hhascup

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    Johnson wouldn't give any of the top "BLACK" fighters a title shot, so Langford and other top "Black" fighters claimed the title. When Langford, who challenged Johnson many times, beat all the rest of the top "Black" fighters, he was recognized as the rightful title holder.

    You could say that Johnson was the "Lineal" Champion BUT he never claimed to be the Champion during that time.
     
  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Quick question. Is there a reason why Jack Johnson never fought Bob Armstrong?