Prime Oscar De la hoya vs 2007 Floyd Mayweather 147

Hi, that's a great point, but Pernell was a southpaw and was harder to box than Floyd. (from Oscar's point of view) At the end of the day, we know what happened in the fight between Oscar and Floyd, and Oscar was 34 and had only fought twice in three years going into the fight. I think at his peak, he'd be quicker, sharper and have more stamina. (although Oscar's always had stamina issues.)

I think prime Oscar at 28 would have beaten that version of Floyd in 2007. If he fought a younger Floyd at a lower weight, who knows?

Regards, Loudon.

 

Great post!

But Mosley was finished at that point. He had a great win over Marg, but he looked like **** against Mora, and he was losing to Mayorga til he found that last second knockout. I don't he was a serious threat to Floyd at all at that point.

Regards, Loudon.

 

Another fantastic informative post, thanks a lot!

If Floyd wanted a 14 day cut off, and Manny wouldn't budge, what was the point in Floyd then saying it was off the table, and he'd have to be tested all the way up to the fight? If Manny wasn't going to agree to the 14 days, he wasn't going to agree to none was he? Obviously Floyd must have lost his temper. At the point, the fight was even less likely to happen.

Marquez may have been desperate to get a third shot, but not at all costs. He's fighting for his country, and he'd had two very close fights with him at that point, there was no way he was going to agree to a third if he agreed with Floyd's accusations. I don't believe it for a second. I'm a big Marquez fan, and I've seen countless interviews over the years. I don't think there's any way that he'd let the allegations slide just to get another shot. I think that if he thought there was anything in it, he'd demand the same thing that Floyd has. They'll probably have a 4th fight, so I just can't see Marquez not doing anything, or not saying anything, if he believed something was wrong.

I don't think the Mosley fight was a dangerous fight for Floyd to take at all. I think Shane has been done for a good while now. But like you say obviously all fights are dangerous, but some much more than others. I'd love to see Floyd fight Alvarez next year.

I've heard a few other people blaming Bob Arum for the fight not coming off aswell.

Thanks for your post, you're a great poster.

Regards, Loudon.

 

Prime Oscar got beat by Whitaker, and by Quartey but got decisions he didn't deserve. Floyd in his prime around 135-140 was much more of an offensive fighter, while still having a sound defense. Oscar usually had a huge speed advantage in all of his fights back then except with Whitaker and Mosley. Two losses, one official, the other unofficial. Oscar got beat up by Quartey because Ike was tough and not a small guy like Oscar was used to fighting.

People want to say Oscar quit jabbing Floyd because he got tired, blah, blah blah. The truth is Oscar and Floyd made a silent agreement where Oscar would stop jabbing if Floyd would stop hitting him with a right hand counter off the jab. Oscar didn't just all of a sudden forget to jab or just stop jabbing because. Oscar didn't like what was coming in return. IMO there is no evidence whatsoever to think Oscar at his peak would beat Floyd. None at all. Just because the judges scored the fight a SD win for Floyd doesn't really mean the fight was that close. DLH won 3 rounds, 4 if you feel like being generous. That fight was no closer than Ward-Froch where two judges scored it 115-113 for Ward, while the one judge who actually saw the fight, had it 118-110 for Ward.

Floyd wins a lot easier than people want to believe. UD at a minimum of 8-4. Floyd is a grade A *******, but inside that ring he's the best of his generation hands down!!!!

 

"That Whitaker was #1 P4P and the #1 welter when he fought Oscar" , That doesn't mean he wasn't old and past prime. Floyd number 1 right now but he old and past his prime

 

LOL any version of Floyd Mayweather would beat De la Hoya, when Oscar was in his prime he COULD have made that fight...Mosley COULD have also...at that time they wanted NO PARTS of Floyd when they were young at the top and wanted money they did not want any part of Floyd.

 

if it was 147 or below prime for prime - mayweather UD

anything above that oscar UD

 

When Oscar was still on top and in his prime, Floyd was a ****in' Superfeatherweight..a division Oscar left before Mayweather even turned pro. atsch

 

Then the purpose of this thread is obsolete...look at the title of the thread before you reply to my comments.:thumbsup

 

Hypothetical match up?

If thats obsolete, then why bother even discussing boxing at all?

 

golden boy wins this one

 

Well im not a huge fan of either but I scored the fight

7 rounds to 5 for PBF I would hardly call that a cake walk against a Old out of form Dela Hoya.

Mayweather was not great in this fight.

The big factor in weighing up a decision on who to take.

Its like this Dela Hoya couldnt really pull the trigger anymore and that was evident from his fight with Sturm.

As the fighter I remember and most that have watched his career is that his hand speed in his Prime was as quick as Mayweathers.

Like I have said Floyd and this is unfortunate and most Floyd fans will hate me for saying this but, Since the Mosley fight I have seen Floyd starting to slow and show many holes and that was bound to happen.

Cotto caught Floyd way more than I thought he would.
And if Floyd takes any risks which i dont see happening against a fast Prime guys at 154 we may see him lose.

But the thread is Prime Dela Hoya against 2007 Floyd.

Thats easy its Dela Hoya as a Prime Dela Hoya would Pressure Floyd like he had never been before.

 

But you're acting like he wasn't good in order to detract from the accomplishment. Lay off the haterade, Whitaker was still capable and he proved it that night.

 

Neither destroy him in their prime so stop with that nonsense. Both are far too flawed to do that. PBF is a thinking man's fighter and would always give either of these fighters hell because he has the ability to outbox both. Neither has shown the ability to outbox or out think PBF in the ring. he's far too complete for these two. He can fight at all ranges with great defense and a high ring IQ at the end of the day he's better and more complete period.:deal

 

Ok, this is coming from a big DLH fan and not a big fan of Mayweather the person. I find him to be too arrogant, a bad influence on kids and acts pretty much like a dik head most of the time.

If both were prime 147lbs, I think it's a hard fight for either man. DLH's jab was unbelievable, as well as his left hook. It came from angles you couldn't see and it was a KO punch.

Floyd is simply the best defensive fighter I have ever seen. I know some of you are comparing him to the defense of Whitaker, but I think Floyd was better and I will tell you why.

While Whitaker moved more, and had a more flashy defensive style, Floyd just never got hit. I remember the first time I saw him hit in a fight and that was against Jose Luis Castillo. In their second fight, he adjusted and dominated. Floyd's defensive style wasn't a moving style, it was that back and forth movement, setting up the right hand and the tight philly shell on the inside.

DLH's size would be an issue and I really think this fight could be a toss up. If DLH could establish his jab throughout the entire fight, he might have a chance but I see Floyd just being to slick for him and winning a UD.

It really hurts me to say this because I don't like Floyd the man, but Floyd the boxer is simply the best I have ever seen in my lifetime and I have been watching boxing since the late 70's.