10 reasons why holyfield is overrated

Never proven to use Steroids. And you are a liar. When Holyfield went to HW,he KO'd all of his first HW opponents for 3 years straight.
Then he one punch KO'd Douglas to become champ and then he fought a bunch of huge guys and won or did well. 6'4 260 pound Foreman and the 6'5 235 pound Bowe. Holyfield had what was needed. And then you say Holyfield was dirty although he was never disqualified ever. If the ref didnt see it,it didnt happen. Every fighter is dirty.
Hopkins headbuts,Foreman pushed,Tyson hit with elbows,Wlad clinches etc

 

Top 15 heavyweight. Hardly overrated. Deal with it.

 

Only Ali has had a greater HW career imo, Holy is a living legend

 

I don't want to get off topic but just rewatch his trilogy with Bowe and observe the difference in his physique from the 1st fight to the 2nd...just sayin'.

 

:rofl atsch

 

fixed

 

OK, wait, I was gonna' type something, but first I have to go roll around the floor laughing.

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OK, I'm back:

Holyfield's first HW fight was in 1988, against James Tillis. He had 9 total fights before facing anyone even remotely dangerous, (Bowe) and then he lost to him.

He lost to Bowe twice, and he also lost to Moorer, who although far from great was his only other serious opponent save for Tyson. While still reasonable in his prime, he also lost to Lewis, and to John Ruiz for ****'s sake.

So who'd he beat? A 42 year old Foreman and a 43 year old Holmes. Oh, and an insane Tyson, and both those fights CLEARLY due to headbutting, which basically made Tyson go insane.

So that's it then, his claim to fame is beating a mentally unstable Mike Tyson. - And, I guess, for having amazing defense, which he did.

Well, OK.

 

Holyfield was a legend, show some damn respect

 

Not terribly highly, but beating Ali is worth more than beating Holyfield and as far as I'm aware he didn't duck anybody as blatantly as Bowe did

Of course, Ali losing to Norton shouldn't be forgotten about either

 

There is no argument that CAN be made against your post. NONE.

At 44 y/o, Evander Holyfield, took a prime Valuev to the brink, in a fight, most beleive he was robbed. (I had it 116-113 Holyfield, but most had it 115-113). No older HW, took the generally regarded #2 HW titlist so close to the brink in history. Foreman was down by 4 rds when he caught Moorer sleeping.

Holyfield's resume stands above any HW's in boxing history. Sadly, he was on the losing end of some raw decisions. The first Lewis fight was his IMO, the second was Lewis's.
His loss to Toney should have been it, accept for maybe a soft touch win before hanging them up. But the man has still been fighting top 100 fighters on a fairly regular basis even 6 yrs later.

I don't want to see him against anymore big, tough, HWs, but I actually would like to see him fight Cunningham. I think he still has enough to capture lightning in a bottle and go out on top in that fight.

 

If you compare him to other ATG it doesn't look as bad as you are trying to make it:

1. Stylewise Bowe was just wrong for early version of Holyfield. Something like Norton for Ali, or Young for Foreman.
3. Every champion had his trick. Watch Lewis leaning on his opponents (Holyfield for example) or hitting his opponent's head with one hand and punching with the other (Grant). The same with Ali, Tyson... almost anyone.
4. I agree he fights way too long, but it is just sad - I do not see how it could affect anything he achieved before that. Ali losses to Spinks and Berbick are the best example.
5. How many close/controversial decisions are on Ali's record?
7. Loss to Ruiz happened when he was way past prime.
8. Ali also got knocked down by Cooper. And Lewis got stopped by B-level fighter... twice.

 

The **** you say?

 

They should of gave him a glove to wear on his head.

 

Coming from a Ward avi :rofl

 

I believe he took them for that fight as well, other than that i think hes always been clean.