Brits. admit it, Bernard hopkins beat Calzaghe

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  1. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    Calzaghe landed some very good shots throughout the fight, plenty of clean and effective punches here
     
  2. Reek Daddy

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    now find a compilation of the numerous clean effective punches landed by Bhop.
     
  3. Reek Daddy

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    :good
     
  4. Jordan_Davies

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    And how many times did we see Hopkins bitching and faking low blows? he gave rounds away because he couldnt cope with the pace :hey
     
  5. HerolGee

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    yeah its more like 1,2,3 and arguably one or two of the other early ones.

    You can see the pattern of gassing right there.
     
  6. Reek Daddy

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    why was Calzaghes corner in panic mode claiming he needed a KO? why was Hopkins corner relaxed as if they had the fight in the bag?
     
  7. Scar

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    Take the Kessler and 44 year old Hopkins victory and Calzaghe's career is pretty much dead. Don't expect anyone to admit anything here.
     
  8. Jolly Roger

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    I had Calzaghe winning quite comfortably, infact I find the fact people still question this result a bit embarrassing. After the fight people were bitter, their man lost, but it has been years now, move on.
     
  9. nastynas

    nastynas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only Hopkins fans would point to a fight where he acted like a complete ****** as proof of his greatness.
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

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    1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
    2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
    3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
    4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
    5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
    a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
    b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
    c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
    d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
    e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
    f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
    g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
    h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
    i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

    I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

    6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
    7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
    8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
    9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.




    Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
    Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
    Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.

    What I do note is that nobody seems to mind Hopkins lost to Taylor. In the first Hopkins/Taylor fight, Jermaine was badly hurt and Hopkins looked the stronger at the end, yet it seems to upset alot of these people that Calzaghe beat Hopkins. Appears very biased.
     
  11. bailey

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    :patsch Forgetting

    Reid, Eubank, Veit, Woodhall, Brewer, Mitchell, Lacy all fighters that had won world title fights at SMW to go with Kessler and Jones who did also.

    if you work out how many fighters were top 10 rated and how many became top 10 rated after Calzaghe beat them he fought 22 SMW title fights and 15 were or became top 10 rated. I havent included Ferreyra who had been top 10 rated before fighting Calzaghe
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    Thats very good but even better when you note Calzaghes LHW career, because as a career total it becomes
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    He fought
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    fighters who were rated when he fought them. Reid, Sheika, Woodhall, Veit2, Brewer, Mitchell, Ashira, Manfredo, Lacy, Kessler, Jones, Hopkins, Bika. Eubank got rated for his loss so could be included to make
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  12. Forza

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    It's not a brit vs american thing it's a race thing. Im American and calzaghe is one of my favorite boxers.

    You see when bernard hopkins made that comment " I will never let a white boy beat me " he turned the fight into a race war, both guys representing their race. Well the black guy got his ass whooped and now the blacks are still bitter. Btw calzaghe didn't even care about race at all, and both eubank and nigel benn said that bhop was a ******.
     
  13. knockout artist

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    Why was Hopkins faking low blows to buy himself time and get points deducted from Calzaghe?
     
  14. bailey

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    Think everyone knows it was because he was losing and looking for an escape
     
  15. iceferg

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    I thought it was close. Hopkins did the cleaner work but Calzaghe landed more. It could of went either way but I had Calzaghe by 1 or 3 PTS can't remember. Hopkins should have had deductions though because you can't just foul people and then deliberitely take a break over petty **** to help you win a fight.