Who had the better Career Resume...Liston or Johnson

Floyd Patterson was a blown-up middleweight too.
A light-heavy at most.
His trainers said they had to make sure he eats loads or he'd be headed back down to middleweight.

 

Put whatever spin on it you wan't.

The bottom line is that Johnson fought a lot more guys over 200lbs, and a lot more fighters over 200lbs who were top 10 material at the time.

Playing the size card for Liston here is digging yourself into a hole.

 

The size discrepancy between Wlad & Byrd is relatively close to Johnson and Langford, which of those opponents were of a higher quality?

What's funny is you laud Langford as the P4P best ever.

Your standards for early HW pugilism are exorbitant.

 

Care to name any? Because Zora Folley was about 200lb. I could throw his name onto the list.

What prime heavyweights above 200lb did Johnson defeat who could compare to Cleveland Williams and Zora Folley?

 

what 200lb + fighter did Johnson beat on film that has the punching power and left jab of a Nino Valdes?

 

Folley, Machen, Williams, and Patterson....Yes.

Patterson is clearly far better on film than anyone Johnson beat


Machen, Folley are better textbook skillful boxers than anyone johnson beat

Williams is a bigger puncher than anyone johnson beat

 

So 199lb does not count?

 

Why would you even bring up Denver Ed Martin when he was weighing in between 186 and 190lb?

 

Obviously not.

Otherwise you are effectivley manipulating rules to drag a strong opponent on Listons resume into the group.

If you are comparing their opponents over 200lbs, then you are comparing their opponents over 200lbs.

 

I understand that Martin was 205.