Holmes v Spinks II video.

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  1. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Here is the highly controversial, Holmes-Spinks II, fight. I thought Holmes lost the first fight, no question. I had him winning this fight. I thought his lead during the first 6 rounds was just too much for Spinks to claw back. I do mind Spinks had a decent spell during the middle rounds and won a couple of the late rounds but Holmes got robbed here I think. I do love controversial decisions, even if they aren't great fights. Hagler-Leonard, Chavez-Whitaker, De La Hoya-Whitaker, Hopkins-Taylor I and II, etc.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzyASoN8BEE[/ame]
     
  2. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great post ! remember this fight well...haven,t seen it since 1986 . my scorecard was 145-142 Holmes...
     
  3. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Did you watch it again?
     
  4. MrBumboclart

    MrBumboclart Active Member Full Member

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    Larry had a lot of very close fights before this. I think it was karma for a few of them.
     
  5. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I scored it for Holmes by one or two rounds. The Easton Assassin was unlucky but he was past it anyway,and was due for retirement.
     
  6. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I did.. round 14 stands out , spinks looked hurt .
     
  7. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Christ.....First viewing since 1986, huh.:good
     
  8. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    It's amazing how Holmes performed in this fight, compared to the first fight. I was alarmed with the lack of right hands he managed to get off throughout the first fight. He was very sluggish indeed, to put it mildly. Far more authoritative and aggressive with both hands during the rematch.
     
  9. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Here is the first fight in full with build-up.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XokRWtl_Rqw&list=UUbqVhaZCNDk97rr-131Z-Pw&index=1&feature=plcp[/ame]
     
  10. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Thanks for posting guys! Anyway, I had Holmes winning 144-141 in the rematch.
     
  11. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I remember it being closer than the first but I will have to watch it again and score it. Holmes usually got the benefit of the doubt by the judges and was lucky a few times when he was champ...Back then once you became champ they had to beat you clearly to get the title...but I'm interested in watching it again...thanks for the post.
     
  12. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    There is little to no controversy for me, I always thought Spinks won both..
     
  13. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Nah....Spinks the first, clearly. Holmes the 2nd, clearly.
     
  14. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I thought both fights were 9-6 in rounds to the winner. Spinks the first and Holmes the second.

    I've never bought into all that getting the benefit of the doubt and having to beat the champion, clearly. Thats why sometimes challengers win decisions by a single point on a couple of cards or all three cards at times as well. Rounds are scored individually......It's not as if judges say, "well I scored the last couple of rounds to the challenger better give this close round to the champion". It's obviously better when a challenger goes out and impresses when trying to win a title. I've also never bought into the theory that the challenger needs to be aggressive either. Thats complete nonsense. Hagler moaned and cried for years because Leonard never stood and fought him.
     
  15. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First time I see this fight.

    I scored it 8-7 for Holmes. Could be 9-6.

    However, Spinks was in better condition at the end of the fight. The next two years, he would have two easy tuneups before being destroyed by Tyson.