Roy Jones was NEVER a Steroids cheat

No they didnt, there was no second test. After an A sample is recorded as positive the B sample has to be sent to a neutral lab of the boxers choosing, this did not happen to Jones B sample.

Instead, after considerable delay the Ripped fuel explanation was offered by Jones legal team.

At that time there were no laws against using steroids in boxing in that state, nor any interest from the IBF to persue the matter at all.

Indeed

Keith

 

. You just make **** up as you go along. Clown.

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Blasting back

Michalczewski camp rips Jones as fight talk heats up
Posted: Friday March 09, 2001 9:57 PM

BERLIN (AP) -- If the war-of-words is any indication, then the chance of a fight between Roy Jones Jr. and Germany's unbeaten Dariusz Michalczewski is heating up.

Michalczewski's promoter, Hans-Peter Kohl, blasted Jones Friday, reacting angrily to a press release from the Jones camp which painted the German fighter as dodging the bout.

"Jones is a coward and he always was," said Kohl. "For two years now we are trying to make that fight happen. We repeatedly made offers, the last time in 1999 when we met [Jones manager] Murad Muhammed."

Jones' camp sent a fax to Kohl on Feb. 28 wanting to iron out the preliminary details of a bout between the two fighters.

"But the fax doesn't include an offer. All they want to know is how much German TV pays, but they won't say how much they want to pay," said Kohl.

There are several other indications the bout, long awaited by the hardcore boxing public, may have some prospects of taking place between Jones (44-1, 36 knockouts) and Michalczewski (43-0, 36 knockouts).

After beating lightly regarded Derrick Harmon two weeks ago to defend his undisputed title, Jones said he would be willing to take on the fighter ranked No. 2 on almost everyone's light heavyweight list -- with one stipulation.

"I ain't going to Germany," Jones said. "It's a dumb business move."

But Michalczewski, a highly paid and popular fighter in Germany who owns the lightly regarded WBO title, now says he is willing to fight in the United States.

Kohl said the press release was just Jones and his camp trying to deflect criticism that he fights the likes of Harmon, but won't face a top fighter.

"Now that the fans and journalists in his own country have begun to turn away from him because of his cheap ring performances, Jones is suddenly eager to do what he didn't want to do for years, step into the ring with Michalczewski," said Kohl.

"All Jones wants to do is repair his image with Michalczewski's name," he added.

Like Jones, the hard-hitting Michalczewski has begun to run out of opponents he can sell to the German public. His last nine bouts have ended in knockouts since a 1997 decision over Virgil Hill, where he briefly united the WBA and IBF crowns with his WBO title.

The Polish-born German then gave up the WBA and IBF titles, which are now owned by Jones.

Kohl said the press release claims Michalczewski is dodging the fight, because he wasn't answering phone calls recently, and because Michalczewski wants to fight in his homeland of Poland on his May 5th birthday first.

"Just because Jones now wants to repair the broken pieces of his image, we are not willing to change our plans all of a sudden."

http://www.network54.com/Forum/88798/thread/976810481/last-1036923779/Dariusz+%26quot%3BTIGER%26quot%3B+Michalczewski

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Funny how Kohl (DM-Jones), ****** (Benn-Jones), and Collins (Jones-Collins) all said the EXACT same thing about the Jones camp lying about making imaginary offers.

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Roy didn't want to go to Germany...

And rightly so, the chances of him getting a fair decision are low, and after what happened to him in the Olympics, who could blame him??

Roy was the best, he was the biggest name in boxing for a decade... Come fight him, give into his demands, or shut up and not be remembered...

 

Your claims, so provide the link.

Secondly, as I just proved, Larry Merchant is not a reliable source

 

The delusion in this thread is incredible.

Roy Jones fought and looked like superman in a period of US sport where it seems almost all the top athletes were juicing.

Not just that but he fought in a sport where there was almost no doping control.

Not just that but when he was actually tested he failed for anabolic steroids, confirmed by the head of the Indiana state athletic commission.

But yeah. There's absolutely no reason to suspect him of doping.

 

:rofl What's up Mind Reader? :happy

 

Doyle i take my hat off to you for having the patience to sit down and educate 3 of the most delusionaly blinded fanboys esb has ever seen in ajackman, keith, and imperial.


no official neutral source (commisioner of the fight or the IBF) have ever stated the failed test was due to andro or ripped fuel. this is purely a damage limitation story made up by roy jones attourney 3 weeks after jones was found to have failed a drugs test for anabolic steroids.

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heres jacob halls interview with Bragging Rights Corner (BRC)




http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/sarajhall1.html


BRC: Mr. Hall, how long have you been a Commissioner in Indiana?

JHALL: We have a three member commission. I have been a Commissioner for thirteen years, and I have served as Chairman in the past.


BRC:May I ask what was your position at the time of the Richard Hall - Roy Jones, Jr. championship fight back in May of 2000?

JHALL: Commissioner.

BRC: Let's move on to both fighters positive tests for anabolic steroids. As you well know there have been several versions of events; the Ripped Fuel version, the sinus medicine, etc. Can you clear it up for the fans? How specific are these tests and can you rule out... let's say the sinus medication, for instance?

JHALL: Not from the information we received. The information we received indicated that Mr. Jones failed the drug test for anabolic steroids. Talking to Roy's attorney, Fred Levin, he indicated that Roy had taken a substance called Ripped Fuel, an over the counter supplement that is not illegal but is an illegal substance according to the IBF and the other sanctioning bodies. He admits that Roy took that. I have no knowledge that he took that or some other substance...

BRC: Let me see if I'm understanding you correctly... You do know that there were anabolic steroids in Roy's system? **(Editor's Note: we are not ignoring the fact that Richard Hall also tested positive, we will come to that in a minute...)

JHALL: Yes.


BRC: You do know that Ripped Fuel could possibly have been the cause of the positive test result?

JHALL:

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BRC: We can't rule the Ripped Fuel out but we can't say that it was the only thing that could have caused Roy to test positive, is that correct?

JHALL: Correct.


BRC: If my understanding of the facts is correct, Richard Hall also tested positive for anabolic steroids.

JHALL: Yes, and in his interview with Aladdin Freeman he didn't mention that he also tested positive and he was probably ten times over what would be a normal amount and Roy Jones was six times over a normal amount. Richard received a letter dated August 2nd, from the IBF indicating to him that he failed the test. He forgot to mention that in the interview.


BRC: I'm glad that you made that observation, because Aladdin Freeman did ask him if he had tested positive for steroids. We are not on a Roy Jones witch hunt here, let's make that clear. We are trying to understand, and this is a problem the fans seem to have with this subject matter, how one fighter can be subject to one set of rules, and another fighter can be subject to... no rules. I realize that this fight happened three years ago, but this was never before put on record. It was put on record for the first time on July 18th by Bragging Rights Corner's Aladdin Freeman.

JHALL: Yes, that is true. I have attended Association of Boxing Commissioners meetings and at those meetings with the Commissioners I've indicated that this occurred but ...there was no press there, so this didn't go any further.

BRC: Wait, wait.. let me understand this... When you indicated the occurrence to the Commissioners, what kind of response did you receive?

JHALL: From the other Commissioners?


BRC: Yes, from the other Commissioners...

JHALL: Like I said in one of the interviews, the majority of the states do not do drug testing, so, since they don't do drug testing, there wasn't a lot of support to do much about it, and I don't believe there is a great concern about steroids by Commissioners at the present time, BUT it is an illegal substance.

BRC: There wasn't a lot of support you say??? My question then is... Was anyone shocked to hear your revelation? Did anyone say, we have to go public with this, we have to do something about it, we need to reveal what happened... I mean, was there any of that???

JHALL: Not really, no.


BRC: No? So basically you got "oh ok, let's move on type attitude?"

JHALL: Nobody seemed to be concerned about it and I didn't believe it was my position to have a press conference and reveal that Roy and Richard Hall had tested positive for steroids. It just kinda... nobody said much about it during this period of time.

BRC: Why did you feel that was not your position?

JHALL: I didn't have a law to back up taking any action. I've tried since May 13, 2000, to introduce a law almost like Nevada's where we can do drug testing in Indiana. So far that hasn't gotten passed in our Legislature or in our Rules. The Commissioners passed it and somehow the Professional Licensing Agency hasn't called up and made these rules. We are trying to get these rules passed but I think the big story is that the majority of the Commissions DON'T do drug testing.










The IBF sent roy jones a letter asking him to report to Indiana state commission to have specimen B tested at a laboratory of his choice . . . . . . . roy never did.





heres what IBF president Marian Muhammad said on the matter

http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/saramuhammad.html






BRC: I realize that you were not the president of the IBF when this fight took place, so I hope this is not an unfair BRC. But, was the IBF supposed to have acted on those positive tests?

Muhammad: To the best of my knowledge, yes.



BRC: And to the best of your knowledge, (and ours), they didn't, correct?...

Muhammad: Well, I only know that on Richard Hall we got nothing but I have a positive test from Roy Jones, Jr. that was directed to Mr. Jake Hall at the Indiana Boxing Commission, indicating that Mr. Jones tested positive for anabolic steroids.

BRC: I realize that 2-1/2 years have gone by, and perhaps you don't remember... but I have copies of the letters sent by the IBF to Richard Hall and to Roy Jones, and they both bare your signature, as then Secretary of the organization...

Muhammad: That's correct and there was also another one that Ms. Knight herself asked me to send... She asked me to send them, (the letters), I sent them. Then she herself sent one to ... it was directed to Roy Jones telling him that she hadn't heard from him about the results from Specimen B and that she was directing him to contact this office no later than the close of business on Friday, August 25, 2000.

BRC: The fight was in May? Why such of long lapse of time?

Muhammad: I can't tell you... Once I did what she asked me to do, it went from there... I don't know what happened after that...


BRC: Can you think of any reason why this situation was never unearthed before the Richard Hall interview with Bragging Rights Corner's Aladdin Freeman?

Muhammad: Well, I really don't know... I know that I saw something on the net at one time, immediately after the fight, but nobody never called me, and when I spoke to Jacob Hall after I got his letter, he said that the Indiana Commission had no way to deal with anabolic steroids intake because it was not covered in their rules, not even banned by Indiana, so he couldn't do anything anyway, that's what he told me.
I was not aware of any of the arrangements that were made between Fred Levin, Roy Jones' attorney and Mr. Jacob Hall from the Indiana Boxing Commission.
(Editor's Note: Ms. Muhammad is referring to the charitable contribution which was asked of Roy Jones, Jr. and which he submitted, in the form of a check for $250, dated Oct. 27, 2000, to the Indianapolis Police Athletic League).

BRC: I would like to ask you if you have been asked by anyone other than BRC regarding this incident and Roy's use of a sinus medication which, according to some members of his camp, could have caused the positive test results...

Muhammad: No one has... I've only spoken to Jake Hall, period. I've never spoken to anyone from Roy's camp including his attorney. I haven't spoken to anyone from any internet sites, I DON'T READ THEM, believe it or not. Nobody has ever called me about Roy Jones testing positive.


BRC: Are you aware that members of Roy Jones, Jr.'s camp have gone on record saying that his sinus medication could have been the culprit for his positive reading?

Muhammad: This is the first I've heard of any of it since 2000, nobody has ever contacted me about anything, and like I said, when it was going on I only communicated with Jake Hall, period.

 

HEADBANGER's post should put an end to this matter. It's clear as day that Jones cheated and used anabolic steroids. he was 6 times over the limit FFS. He was 'roided up to the eyeballs. How anyone can refute this is beyond me.

I used to be a fan of Margarito, but after his handwrap scandal I didn't want to see the guy fight. He's a disgraceful cheater.

Anyone who takes steroids is a disgrace cheater who should be banned for life. Why do these fanboys continue to brush these cheaters' indiscretions under the carpet?atsch

 

the problem is that it's the 100th time he's put that same post up. it's been reported over and over again that roy took over the counter andro but he should be banned for life? also, is it cheating if your opponent in that fight was ten times over the limit? roy is guilty of the same thing basically that enzo mac was just busted for. the big difference is that at the time jones got caught, you and me could go to the store and by the same stuff.

 

why do you always act like Jones is the only fighter to be a victim of bad scoring in the Olympics? It has happened every single Olympics to someone. Amatuer scoring is not even close to the Pro's anyway it is a totally different animal. Germany isn't the only country where people have been robbed hell we have had our fair share in the US also. I don't buy all this crap. Jones could have fought all those guys on neutral ground and wouldn't even do that either. And to say he was the biggest name is laughable he didn't sell tickets and his PPV numbers were crap.

He never beat a Undisputed, Unified, or Lineal Champion in his whole career and was never THE champion in any weight class he fought in because he always avoided the top names at each stop.

Not to mention his Glass Jaw. His career was meticulously crafted in a way that he moved up in weight and avoided the top fighters before jumping to another weight class. Then, when he was willing to travel to fight it didn't matter because he keeps getting KOed over and over. Hell man he was just the recipient of a gift decision himself :roflatsch

Spare me the Jones couldn't get a fair shake act he got every benefit known to man for 10 years. He had belts literally HANDED back to him for christ sakes!

 

:rofl Great post. Jones could become the first man to have his Glass Jaw shattered on every continent.

 

rico, thanks for adding your valuable opinion. you posting on these boards is like when someone's out having a conversation and then a mentally ******ed kid comes along and wants add his two cents.

 

not by a single legitmate source you ****ing clown :nut

oh yeah roys attourney made the excuse after a 3 week thought period on how best to limit the damage to roys legacy and briefed a few journalists to repeat the bull**** :rofl

how about you study the facts and quit reading the subjective sources :deal

how about you take off your cum stained roy jones junior glasses and accept that your idol is a steroid riddled cheat and got busted big time, and no matter how long delusional fanboys like you continue to try and brainwash posters on esb, the team elite corporation will be around to school you and educate the rest of the forum about the real facts :yep




class dismissed :hi:

 

I used to buy that too because Roy is one of my favorite fighters but it's BS. When he got popped his manager first said it was because of a nasal spray and then he changed his tune and said it came from a legal supplement. They clearly lied.

 

More like the 1000th time ! Its old .He thinks now if he makes the fonts bigger it will make people agree with him.